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boot sector possibly messed up?

Posted on 6/16/14 at 1:11 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 1:11 pm
Have a dell pc that is used for home theater purposes. Came home this morning and it won't boot from the hard drive.

Powers on, goes through the Dell screen, stays running for about 30 seconds then just turns the entire system off by itself. Doesn't try to reboot over and over.

I reformatted the hard drive abiut 3 months ago. Have an authentic Windows CD, never registered it, worth trying to boot from that disk and reinstall or better just to scrap the works?
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 1:35 pm to
Press F8 after the BIOS info screen disappears and turn on boot logging. Then maybe try Safe Mode and see what the file says. If you can't even get into Safe Mode, try booting memtest86+ and check for memory errors. If it checks out, try booting some Live CD with tools, like Parted Magic or a custom-built WinRE/PE environment. Then try to access the system drive, look for boot log file you tried to create, look at SMART values, boot sector, etc. If the hardware all seems to check out, then I guess you have nothing to lose trying the Windows Recovery features, but I'd still like to know WTF went wrong in the first place. I mean, I've never run Windows Recovery, and I've been using Windows since long before that feature existed.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 1:47 pm to
It is strange because the computer is either running or in sleep. Very seldom do we do a reboot.
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
24333 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 2:02 pm to
If it were missing you would have a message similar to this come up.



What OS are you running? It's pretty common on XP for the boot sector to become corrupted for no apparent reason.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 3:12 pm to
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Powers on, goes through the Dell screen, stays running for about 30 seconds then just turns the entire system off by itself.


What's the last thing you see on the screen before it powers off?
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51692 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 4:46 pm to
When the Dell logo comes up, hit the F12 button until you hear the computer beep at you. This will take you to the boot menu. Run the Dell diagnostics and see where it bombs out.

Just from the description, it sounds like some sort of heat issue (CPU fan not turning on, thermal gel breaking down, etc).
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37202 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

When the Dell logo comes up, hit the F12 button until you hear the computer beep at you. This will take you to the boot menu. Run the Dell diagnostics and see where it bombs out.

Just from the description, it sounds like some sort of heat issue (CPU fan not turning on, thermal gel breaking down, etc).
This definitely sounds like a hardware issue rather than a software/OS issue.

Even if the boot sector is corrupt, I don't see why that would cause the computer to shut off. It will just hang and you would manually need to power off the machine.

Do what Bard said.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37202 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

try booting some Live CD with tools, like Parted Magic
Ultimate Boot CD is pretty good for this.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:30 pm to
Thanks guys, going to try some of these things and report back.

When the computer reboots it is just a black image.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
51692 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 7:42 am to
You aren't getting the initial logo screen? Are you hearing any beeps?
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