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"flopping" in sports (any sport) - should their be a "realtime" official

Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:36 am
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:36 am
Watching reply and immediately levying sanctions against violators?
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:37 am to
NBA DLeague is testing out using techs to punish flopping next season iirc
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 10:38 am
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:08 am to
Fining them 5k a pop isn't doing anything to deter it. In theory, you could change the outcome of a game just for risking 5k.

Make it 25k fine each flop and then we'll see who continues this BS.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:08 am to
Define "flopping"
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

Define "flopping"


Either:

a) acting as if a foul/infraction has occurred when one clearly has not;

or,

b) dramatizing/exaggerating an actual foul/infraction in an attempt to draw a greater sanction
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 12:17 pm to
No. Flopping should be encouraged, imo.
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

Fining them 5k a pop isn't doing anything to deter it. In theory, you could change the outcome of a game just for risking 5k.

Make it 25k fine each flop and then we'll see who continues this BS.



there really isnt a difference between 5 and 25K to the majority of these guys
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

a) acting as if a foul/infraction has occurred when one clearly has not;



Agree

quote:

b) dramatizing/exaggerating an actual foul/infraction in an attempt to draw a greater sanction


Disagree
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:42 pm to
Here's an idea: give technicals for flopping.
Posted by Florida225
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
2833 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:43 pm to
1st offense - 5k fine
2nd offense - 25k fine
3rd offense - 50k fine (1 game suspension)


And continue to go up from that. It's destroying what's left of the sport. Of course review everything to make 100% sure LDO.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

1st offense - 5k fine
2nd offense - 25k fine
3rd offense - 50k fine (1 game suspension)


And continue to go up from that. It's destroying what's left of the sport. Of course review everything to make 100% sure LDO.


I'm cool with that, but I would start it at your 2nd offense amount.

1st - 25k
2nd - 50k (one game suspension)
3rd - 100k (3 game suspension)
Posted by SBvital
Member since Feb 2013
1954 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:55 pm to
I'm not going to say flopping should be allowed, but I would think that having officials call it could backfire.

Do you guys think that it could go to each team's favor? Calling a flop that was really a knock down compared to actually "flopping?" I just see it being a too opinionated call to be accurate, although I have seen some pretty obvious ones.

Was there a "flop" in one of the finals games that I have missed? I haven't played that close attention.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

Here's an idea: give technicals for flopping.



Dleague will be testing it out. You want to make sure you aren't ejecting a bunch of guys for flops.
Posted by Baloo
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Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:05 pm to
Make it a foul. Hockey has a rule for "embellishment". Even if its a legit penalty, the flopper goes to the penalty box as well. Soccer is supposed to give yellow cards for flopping under the regulation against cynical play, but I've never seen it actually called.

Don't go with fines, make it a foul. A technical for flopping would be a great attempt.
Posted by cascadia
Georgia
Member since Jan 2014
2089 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:09 pm to
It'd have to be techs too. Otherwise in a game 7 everyone will be falling.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:10 pm to
leFlop fans will not support this...
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12740 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

It'd have to be techs too. Otherwise in a game 7 everyone will be falling.


Then tack it on to the next series. In the finals make it an immediate ejection from the game.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:53 pm to
So you agree with Max Kellerman's wife too?
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40813 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 4:29 pm to
In my opinion, they should have an official off court reviewing that shite real time, with every possible angle there is, and if it's determined to be a flop, there should be an immediate technical foul and a change of possession. Unless the offender is already on defense.

If they continue to "punish" players by fining them, or doing shite after the game is already decided, then nothing will change. There is no risk factor. If players are issued technical fouls or some kind of personal foul with change of possession involved, then they will change their behavior because it could change the outcome of a game like the flopping in some cases does now.
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 4:32 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164265 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 4:31 pm to
Because replay works so well in basketball for out of bounds calls.
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