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How much to put down on a home

Posted on 6/3/14 at 5:46 pm
Posted by tiger91
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 5:46 pm
We have a purchase agreement on a home. When ours sells we are expecting about $125k or so to put towards the new house which is a little less than half the purchase price.

Should all of that go toward the purchase? What should we consider when we figure out how much to put down? I'm assuming we'd put all of it but then started to wonder.
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:05 pm to
There's no right answer and it's difficult to even attempt to answer without more information. What's your monthly take home? How much do you have in savings and retirement? I'd say at least 20% to avoid PMI, but it depends.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:24 pm to
Are there loans out there where you can put down only 10%? I'm talking non fha
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

Are there loans out there where you can put down only 10%


Ya, a conventional loan with PMI. As low as 5%.

I'd figure with these interest rates why put all 125k into the house. As long as he doesn't go blow the difference, he has a great emergency/investment fund waiting for him to make house payments down the road if tragedy strikes.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 6:34 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

Are there loans out there where you can put down only 10%? I'm talking non fha


VA are 0% down (no PMI)



'Murica

Posted by iknowmorethanyou
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:20 pm to
I would only put 20% unless you cant earn more than 3% on your long term savings.
Posted by tiger91
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:40 pm to
That's where it's tricky ... Husband is a farmer and our income really fluctuates. (I work part time ... About 1000k/month) One year recently it was more than 125k and one recent year it was less than 35k. It's an income on paper as its estimated based on what's in the bins and current price. We have an accountant who specializes in ag businesses needless to say.

Regarding retirement, I'm guessing my son posts here so don't want to say specifics but considerably more than 500k.

I really don't like money situations and questions like this. A loan officer I think would say put the min so they'll get more interest.

30 yr is 4.175
20 yr is 3.875
15 yr I have written down but can't remember and I'm not home.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75198 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

Ya, a conventional loan with PMI. As low as 5%.


Really? Up to what amount?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39581 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:49 pm to
No idea, I didn't ask

North of 300k though, at least 350k
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 10:57 pm
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 10:36 am to
Assuming no repairs are needed to the new home, and you have no credit card debt, I would put it all down on the new home. I would also do a 30 year loan, and make payments like you had a 15. That way, ifyou guys have a down year, you can have the luxury of smaller payments. But having a paid off home is a powerful tool to becoming financially independent. Good luck.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

A loan officer I think would say put the min so they'll get more interest.

depends on the loan officer. the loan officer is going to want you to get approved first and foremost.

we recently purchased a house and the mortgage broker said put 25% down to get the interest rate down.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:42 pm to
you can put down as little as 5% up to 417k thats the conventional max lon amount.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 9:14 pm to
20-25% down will get you the best mortgage deal available.

Are there things that you can place the money into which might be better than the benefit of 5% down (conventional FNMA or FHLMC)? Maybe. But I don't typically buy into that philosophy. It's usually built on half truths.

1) How quickly are you going to buy? (rate locks affect the terms).
2) Ask your loan officer if paying .125% or .25% discount points will affect your loan (ie. buy down the rate .125%). This pricing changes daily. But there is often an opportunity to recoup your investment in 1 to 2 years (and enjoy it for as long as you maintain the mortgage).

After you close, I recommend getting a HELOC to recoup available credit on the equity that you put down (i.e. it could be better than financing a used car through a bank in the future. Home repairs, etc..)

Good luck.
Posted by tiger91
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 11:55 pm to
Thanks to all. Home needs no repairs but there are some "wants". Hadn't started the app process yet as we wanted to wait until we had an offer on our house. Preapprpval is good for 90 days and we have a 6 month contingency so we don't want credit pulled twice. Loan officer we will be working with suggested to wait.

Great suggestion for the finance for 30; pay the extra as if it was 15.

And how long is a helic good for? Never had one and know nothing about them c
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51907 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 1:02 am to
quote:

And how long is a helic good for? Never had one and know nothing about them c



The details vary based on lender.

Ballpark of a decade for a given application

I would wait until a need comes up to apply for that reason.....more equity to use on a wider range of uses
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 1:04 am
Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:13 am to
quote:

I'd figure with these interest rates why put all 125k into the house. As long as he doesn't go blow the difference, he has a great emergency/investment fund waiting for him to make house payments down the road if tragedy strikes.


This, but no less then 20% down payment.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:58 am to
quote:

I would wait until a need comes up to apply for that reason.....more equity to use on a wider range of uses


I respectfully disagree.
The need could be important (lost job, medical condition, home repair, etc..) and those needs could also be a reason why a lender could decline an application for the line of credit.
Banks like to approve loans for people who don't need them and decline the ones that are urgent.

If the home appreciates, you can request an increased limit with the bank or shop and switch to a new lender with more favorable terms.

Terms are often 10 year credit lines that become 10 year installment loans based upon whatever is outstanding at that time(covering a full 240 months from application).
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