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why doesn't new orleans have a good seafood market?

Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:42 am
Posted by runningTiger
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:42 am
the westwego seafood market is probably the best in the area. but the only good selection of seafood there is shrimp, crabs, oysters, catfish, and sometimes crawfish. other seafood markets that i can think of - harbor seafood, dennis's, big fisherman, castnet, and a few rinky ones in bucktown like capt sids. all of these are essentially the same. shrimp, oysters, crabs. a very limited selection of fish. pj oysters is

to be honest, sadly, the best seafood market in new orleans is whole foods. but whole foods costs literally twice as much as it should and prohibits the vast majority of people from shopping there for seafood.

so why doesn't new orleans have a good seafood market? even a city like pensacola can have a good one (Joe Patti's really is world class).
Posted by Penn
Jax Beach
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:44 am to
Great question



Just got back from Australia and I must say their seafood markets are magical
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 8:45 am
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:47 am to
The Whole Foods seafood case is terrible, IMHO. A bunch of non-Gulf fish and shellfish. It might be good if you were in Chicago. I wanna see LOCAL fish in a seafood case.

Go to Hong Kong Market. Live crabs, fish. Fresh shrimp and GULF fish, like mangrove snapper, yellowfin tuna, flounder, etc. You can generally get fresh yellowfin for around $9/lb. Try that at Whole Foods. LINK
Posted by runningTiger
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:48 am to
hong kong market's seafood is swimming in tanks that look like they havent been cleaned in years. at least the last time i was there that's how it was. i'd buy a vietnamese poorboy there, but not the seafood.
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:48 am to
Mainly a combination of government regulations and the big seafood houses (like LA Seafood) selling to restaurants directly instead of consumers. But there should be one. There was talk early on with Peche that eventually it would have a seafood market attached to it (like Butcher's meats), but not sure where that stands.

Also, can you imagine how many people would say, "The speckled trout out ABC Seafood market is no better than what I can catch myself." Recreational fishing plays a big role as well.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:51 am to
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honest, sadly, the best seafood market in new orleans is whole foods.


Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:51 am to
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hong kong market's seafood is swimming in tanks that look like they havent been cleaned in years

Sort of like the dirty brown Gulf water those fish live in....but BO has a good point. I don't buy much finfish at seafood markets. I have a freezer full of wahoo, snapper, speckled trout, etc. Why would I pay retail when I can get it for free from friends & family?
Posted by runningTiger
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:52 am to
i was over at joe patti's in pensacola last year and that really got me asking this question. are the people of pensacola any different? they catch trout, redfish, snapper. but they have a world class seafood market. and prices were great. beautiful grouper $9/lb. frog legs $4/lb. wahoo $10/lb. u10 scallops $11/lb.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:53 am to
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the people of pensacola any different


Yes
Posted by runningTiger
Member since Apr 2014
3029 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:54 am to
a city 1/4 the size with i'm guessing the same % of citizens who saltwater fish as nola is able to maintain a great seafood market. but nola can't.

explain.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:56 am to
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(Joe Patti's really is world class).



Yep. Love that place. I hate that they leave their fresh shrimp soaking in ice water though. Maybe it's just me but I think it kinda water logs them and messes up the taste/texture..
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:56 am to
Well for one. Joe Patti's has been around for what 80 years, so it is an institution.

Secondly, Id suspect a fair amount of their business, especially during the summer, is the tourist trade. People who come to the beach and want a bunch of shrimp or tuna steaks to grill at their condo. Tourists who come to New Orleans are looking to eat the same thing, just in a restaurant.

That is at least two explanations.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:57 am to
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explain



We are better at catching fish
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63501 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:57 am to
quote:

a city 1/4 the size with i'm guessing the same % of citizens who saltwater fish as nola is able to maintain a great seafood market. but nola can't.

explain.


crimson necks?
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:58 am to
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I have a freezer full of wahoo, snapper, speckled trout, etc


ho, how have you been doing, I haven't seen you in ages?!?!
I'm probly gonna be in the Nola area soon, I really need to get by there and us visit.


Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37748 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:59 am to
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Secondly, Id suspect a fair amount of their business, especially during the summer, is the tourist trade. People who come to the beach and want a bunch of shrimp or tuna steaks to grill at their condo. Tourists who come to New Orleans are looking to eat the same thing, just in a restaurant.




Bingo
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:03 am to
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explain

We also have a more productive inshore fishing area (brackish & saltwater marshes produce more fish than freshwater marshes), and I'd wager we have a much higher per capita rate of individual fishing licenses issued. IOW we fish more, and we have more fish available to catch.

Those sparkling white sandy bottoms aren't the best habitat....our mud & grass are way way way more productive.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
the Verde River
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:13 am to
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runningTiger


I enjoy your posting and the discussion it creates
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
6397 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:45 am to
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I hate that they leave their fresh shrimp soaking in ice water though. Maybe it's just me but I think it kinda water logs them and messes up the taste/texture..


You talking about head on shrimp?

By far the best way to keep fresh head on shrimp is in ice water. I've never had a texture with water logged shrimp. They live in the water.
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
6397 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:47 am to
quote:

Well for one. Joe Patti's has been around for what 80 years, so it is an institution. Secondly, Id suspect a fair amount of their business, especially during the summer, is the tourist trade. People who come to the beach and want a bunch of shrimp or tuna steaks to grill at their condo. Tourists who come to New Orleans are looking to eat the same thing, just in a restaurant. That is at least two explanations.


I would agree with this. Business/seafood sales on the gulf coast more than doubles during the spring/summer.
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