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From Salary to Small Business Owner

Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:52 am
Posted by LSUTOM07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
765 posts
Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:52 am
Looking for some insight from the MT on how some of you made the switch from full time salaried employment to owning your own business. I feel like unless I had a year or two salary saved, plus financing for the business, this is a very difficult switch to make. How did you do it?

Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65044 posts
Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:07 am to
Jumped and worked my arse off
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65044 posts
Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:09 am to
Seriously though, set goals. Know how much money you need to make (Stuff you need to sell, deals you need to close), to achieve that salary. Set that as a daily goal. I need to sell $2,000 worth of stuff every day in order to get my $75,000 salary. Every year, adjust your goal. If you don't make your goal for the week, come in on Saturday or stay late to try and reach the goal.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35548 posts
Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:21 am to
quote:

Jumped and worked my arse off


This. It's a leap of faith.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:21 am to
I paid off all debt, including house mortgage, saved up 12 months expenses, gave myself 6 months to become profitable or I would look for a "real" job and then took the leap.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18406 posts
Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:22 am to
Not sure if you want to classify what I did as small business -

But I became a full time musician providing a product to consumers while managing my own assets and expenditures.

I definitely needed to use a bunch of savings to get by. Going from $2400/month to zero was the scariest moment in my life especially considering I had a newborn baby.

We decided that $25k from savings would be a good investment in the business and I used chunks from that until I got on my feet. Luckily I was able to stop using savings as income after six months.

As for making your business work, make sure you jump head first into it. Meet people who are competitors and try to gain insight from how they were successful. Spend that extra cash on advertising. Stay ahead on your books. Go ahead and start researching taxes for next year.

Also, write down five goals - can be small or large - that you want to accomplish over the next year. This is good so that in a year if you haven't accomplished any of them, you may have the chance to get out of owning a small business before you get too far into debt.

Good luck.
Posted by LSUTOM07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
765 posts
Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:10 pm to
After saving a years salary, how did you go about funding your startup?
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65044 posts
Posted on 5/5/14 at 2:01 pm to
I get the idea that Russian is some sort of consultant so he probably had some clients already lined up so he didn't start from nothing.
Posted by LSUTOM07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
765 posts
Posted on 5/5/14 at 2:23 pm to
I'm assuming you had the same situation broke?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 5/5/14 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

I get the idea that Russian is some sort of consultant so he probably had some clients already lined up so he didn't start from nothing.


Actually I had ZERO clients lined up when I made the jump. I starting calling on potential clients after I left my employment.

I flew to Washington, DC and met with about 20 firms in one week.

The Monday after I got home I received my first call back. I had my hopes up but it fell through the next day. I was crushed.

However two days later that firm called me back and said the other person they were considering withdrew his name so if I was still interested I had the contract. I almost peed my pants saying yes.

The lady said, "Don't you want to know how much your remuneration will be before you accept?" I said, "No, it doesn't matter, I want the work."

That lady led me to numerous other engagements and I've never had to "market" myself again.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 5/5/14 at 2:51 pm to
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After saving a years salary, how did you go about funding your startup?

Mr. Visa and Mr. MasterCard. (Along with a HELOC that I never had to use.)
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8514 posts
Posted on 5/5/14 at 2:55 pm to
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Mr. Visa and Mr. MasterCard. (Along with a HELOC that I never had to use.)


When my wife started her business, she got 0% credit cards and as the 0% would run out, she'd transfer it to a new 0% card- I think she only had to transfer twice or 3 times before she paid them off, which was 1-2% better than the Small Business Loan we looked at taking out.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35548 posts
Posted on 5/5/14 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

Mr. Visa and Mr. MasterCard. (Along with a HELOC that I never had to use.)


I started mine with the deposit check for our first project. I've never had to borrow a dime or use credit to fund anything business related. I'm very fortunate that things have worked out so well.
Posted by LSUTOM07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
765 posts
Posted on 5/5/14 at 3:19 pm to
What business sector if you don't mind me asking? That seems insane to me!
Posted by TheBigHurt
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
2378 posts
Posted on 5/5/14 at 3:25 pm to
I'm planning on making the jump here in a couple months with a colleague / friend. Should make for some interesting times ahead.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35548 posts
Posted on 5/5/14 at 5:25 pm to
Data cabling
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 5/5/14 at 6:42 pm to
I'll give a different perspective. I made the jump 2.5 yrs out of college and gave up a good job and excellent salary for my age.

I didn't really have enough saved up, but I was well coached and learned my craft well and put myself in a position to succeed by good preparation. I set detailed goals and planned well.

However, I failed. My execution was excellent when I did what I needed to do and I could sell. However I lacked the commitment and dedication to succeed. I made it for 5 years through a combination of factors, primarily because I was/am very smart and I can sell. My problem was dedication. I had no problem with people saying no and no problem with following back up. My problem was consistent dedication. I would get after it for a few weeks, have a 5,6, or even 10k month, then coast and chase skirts and so forth until I had to bear down again.

Eventually I went back to a salaried position. It was an interesting5 years. I basically did enough to get by, but never enough to succeed. The positive was I averaged maybe 15 hours of actual work over that time and played a lot. The negative was I was never making any head way and losing ground in my previous profession if I ever wanted to go back, which I eventually did and had to play some catch up.

Just another perspective that may help from someone who did not succeed and why.
This post was edited on 5/5/14 at 6:44 pm
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10230 posts
Posted on 5/5/14 at 7:09 pm to
I appreciate the honesty about your failure. I bet you learned a lot from your experience. Learning is really about all we're entitled to do in this world if we take the opportunity to do so.

I remember living on $18K for several years when I first started. Now I hardly ever get to do what I like to do in my business, I usually just solve problems brought to me by others. I also don't work much anymore. I think I'm just as effective, and have learned to be much more efficient. I'm 47 FWIW.

Employees are always the toughest thing for me. I'm so far removed from working for someone, I need to take a moment and understand their commitment isn't my commitment before I talk to them some days.

I borrowed 100% from my bank on my signature. It was a stock purchase, so I guess they held stock as collateral, but never asked for it. I bought 25% of an ongoing business, which I worked for, and then the remainder later.

I guess really the first business I bought was an apartment building while I still worked at the above business before I bought it. I cut the realtor and banker out of that deal, and bought it on contract for deed. I lived in one unit, and rented the rest of the building.

We're a small business by any measure. I've learned to cut down the cost of legal, banking, accounting by either doing it myself, or having the job partially done before it is brought to the professional.

A couple pieces of advice. Work it like a job your first several years. Always spend less than you make. When you've had a record year, remember, it can, and likely will, turn the other way. Knowing it, and living it through a couple of cycles are different.

You'll be fine. I'm a believer that if it is what you want, you'll make it happen.
This post was edited on 5/5/14 at 7:13 pm
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 5/5/14 at 8:29 pm to
I learned some things about myself. I need some structure. I need some competition from co-workers who are talented and motivated. I need to be somewhat uncomfortable in my position. I need a push at times. I need to feel like I am learning, progressing, or something.

If too many of the above elements are not there (they don't all have to be there), I will lose motivation and digress until enough elements are there again, I make a change, or I fail.

When I did my own thing, my motivation was up and down, and at the end of the day, I really just wanted to make enough money to have fun in the moment or short term.

Often takes time and life experiences to learn about what works for yourself and that can change as well.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22302 posts
Posted on 5/5/14 at 8:47 pm to
As many have posted here, just showing up is half the battle. So true about stealing second with your foot on first. Putting yourself in the line of fire is all important. I'd venture to say that where you plan to be 5 years down the road vs. where you actually wind up will be very different. Be resilient and be willing to adapt.

Leave it to Zig to simply what we often over-complicate: Prime the Pump Listen to ALL of his stuff!
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