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Article on early departures for the draft, mentions Michael Ford

Posted on 4/25/14 at 8:24 am
Posted by Grandmike
Houston, TX
Member since Jul 2009
693 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 8:24 am
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
5148 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 8:31 am to
Not reading all that.

In essence, if they don't pan out, what's stopping them from going back to school and getting their degree, apart from a little debt?

They should know the risks with playing professionally. I'm not gonna dog them for trying, because I would probably do the same. Just do't whine about it, and get back to school if you keep thinking to yourself, "I should've gotten that degree".
Posted by LSU 318 LSU
El Cerrito Place
Member since Jan 2011
4278 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 8:38 am to
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what's stopping them from going back to school and getting their degree
I've always said this. Go get the money while you can and leave your dream. You can always go back and get your degree. What most people don't understand is these are still KIDS. Let them do what THEY want and not what WE want
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 8:39 am to
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In essence, if they don't pan out, what's stopping them from going back to school and getting their degree, apart from a little debt?



especially with the money you can make

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he played 12 games on special teams for the Chicago Bears and made around $496,000.


and if he does pan out, he's a year closer to the 2nd contract. He risks injury by staying another year and was down on the depth chart.

Smart move on his part.

Also, if you are a mid round pick, the new rules make it smarter to go pro IMO.
This post was edited on 4/25/14 at 8:41 am
Posted by MJM
Member since Aug 2007
2485 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 9:10 am to
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What most people don't understand is these are still KIDS.

Kids? These guys are 20+ yrs old. When the hell does someone stop being a kid in your mind?

Seriously the pussification of america. Coddling people well into their 20's treating them like kids
Posted by RonFNSwanson
University of LSU
Member since Mar 2012
23155 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 9:25 am to
I'm sure your decision making was the same when you were 20 as whatever age you are now
Posted by ffishstik
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4128 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 9:38 am to
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Go get the money while you can and leave your dream.


That's the point of the article, a lot of these kids DON'T get drafted and if they don't get an UFA deal, there is no money. So now they're broke and if they want to finish college, many have to pay their own way. Ford did make some money, probably ended up netting around $300k after taxes, so he should be able to afford to pay his way to finish his degree and pocket a little after he's done. Balance that with the cost of school, room and board, etc, he probably came out ahead by about $200k. Is $200k worth the gamble?
Posted by tigburls
Member since Feb 2010
543 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 9:38 am to
Everyone I know made important decisions regarding their career in their twenties or earlier. Some people made bad ones that hampered progression for life. Thats why you ask people with experience their opinions.

I definitely don't think anyone on this board knows better than people advising these players but to call them kids and allow bad decisions to be made because of it is pretty comical. Hopefully they have a mature figure in their life and not just someone looking to make a dollar off of them.
Posted by RonFNSwanson
University of LSU
Member since Mar 2012
23155 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 9:43 am to
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Is $200k worth the gamble?



Are you kidding? For someone who dreams of playing in the NFL, of course it is.
Posted by TIGER FAN 72
Member since Jun 2009
716 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:00 am to
Spot on!
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
4696 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:15 am to
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and if he does pan out, he's a year closer to the 2nd contract. He risks injury by staying another year and was down on the depth chart. Smart move on his part.


I wouldn't call it a smart move, as much as a necessary evil. It is true that he wouldve lost carries, so what do you do?

Theres good arguments to both sides of the story, but Charles Davis said it best that the kids coming out early as 1st rounders are not the problem. Its the kids that are given the middle round grades, who can very easily slip out of the 7th rd.

Saban (don't shoot me, im just using him b/c he made this statement) tells his players that if they get a 1st rd grade, leave. If you don't, there is no reason to leave. (obviously, RB's should be on a different scale these days)
This post was edited on 4/25/14 at 10:17 am
Posted by Cajun Revolution
Member since Apr 2009
44671 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:22 am to
People forget how good Ford was. He would have started for just about every program outside 5-10.
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
4696 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:26 am to
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People forget how good Ford was.

We have had a stable of RB's from 2010-2013.

Ridley
Ford
Ware
Hilliard
Blue
Hill
Magee
Posted by Grandmike
Houston, TX
Member since Jul 2009
693 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:43 am to
Quote: " quote:
Is $200k worth the gamble?



Are you kidding? For someone who dreams of playing in the NFL, of course it is.

I played bridge the other day with a woman who's a "Life Coach" for the Texans. She advises young players on some of the non-football realities of their new career. She said that young players in the NFL have much higher expenses than anyone not in the business realizes and that all but the higher draftees don't end up making very much at all. The $200K estimate for Ford is probably high.


Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64475 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:49 am to
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So now they're broke and if they want to finish college, many have to pay their own way.

oh you mean like every non-athlete in america. the horror
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
20698 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:49 am to
And don't forget all he needs to do is be on a teams roster for a total of 5 years to get his NFL pension for life.

I could live on around $300,000 a year.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31882 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 11:03 am to
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Kids? These guys are 20+ yrs old. When the hell does someone stop being a kid in your mind? Seriously the pussification of america. Coddling people well into their 20's treating them like kids


nobody's coddling....they are immature, thus the kids comments. Is what it is. I was dumb/naïve as hell at 20.

Posted by RonFNSwanson
University of LSU
Member since Mar 2012
23155 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 11:29 am to
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The $200K estimate for Ford is probably high.



Yes, but what do most college graduates come out making? Nowhere near that.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26614 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 12:09 pm to
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Kids? These guys are 20+ yrs old. When the hell does someone stop being a kid in your mind? Seriously the pussification of america. Coddling people well into their 20's treating them like kids


I don't know what planet you are from but anybody 20 years old anywhere is still treated like a kid.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19969 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 12:11 pm to
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And don't forget all he needs to do is be on a teams roster for a total of 5 years to get his NFL pension for life.

I could live on around $300,000 a year.


Got a link?

And you really think that pension is paid when they retire? Or at retirement age? I mean seriously where do some of you come up with this shite.
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