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re: Article on early departures for the draft, mentions Michael Ford
Posted on 4/25/14 at 2:43 pm to ULSU
Posted on 4/25/14 at 2:43 pm to ULSU
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ooh, you got me. I mentioned the pension, but that is not a big part of my reasoning at all.
Then dont be trying to bring finance 101 opportunity cost and time value of money concepts into the discussion if you have already ignored them.
And I just dont think that we agree that an extra year of development, and game experience, will do nothing for your your chances as a professional. I mean shite look at Zach Mettenberger as an easy example.
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Posted on 4/25/14 at 2:49 pm to ULSU
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If you can't make an active roster as a junior, there's not a much greater chance you'll do so as a senior unless there are extenuating circumstances (ie you were hurt as a junior or something).
Possibly, there are so many variables. I'm not even saying that Michael Ford made the wrong move. He was a solid RB in a loaded backfield and it isn't likely that he would have improved his stock by coming back. A player also has to look at the depth at his position entering the draft. If it looks like there's a ton of talent coming out the following year, then maybe he rolls the dice and leaves his junior year. The problem is that too many are coming out when they are projected as late round picks hoping to get to the second contract and not even getting a FIRST contract.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 3:04 pm to ffishstik
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Talk about nothing to lose. A sign of things to come? Doubt it, but interesting.
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The situation worries Nutt, the ex-college coach, who said that in the late 2000s, a measure was floated at a Southeastern Conference coaches meeting to explore allowing players who left early to return to their teams if the draft didn't work out. Nutt said the idea, which he agreed with, didn't get very far.
Talk about nothing to lose. A sign of things to come? Doubt it, but interesting.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 3:09 pm to abellsujr
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The situation worries Nutt, the ex-college coach, who said that in the late 2000s, a measure was floated at a Southeastern Conference coaches meeting to explore allowing players who left early to return to their teams if the draft didn't work out. Nutt said the idea, which he agreed with, didn't get very far.
Talk about nothing to lose. A sign of things to come? Doubt it, but interesting.
As long as they don't hire an agent, I don't see why not. Baseball works this way.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 3:16 pm to abellsujr
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Its not like Sentimore can go knock on Tennessee's door and go back to college.
no, that's exactly what college athletes do. and the ones who are actually serious about getting their degree, go back to class in the offseason.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 3:16 pm to abellsujr
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I agree that it would be possible, just not nearly as easy.
not easy as in not free. i don't feel sorry for him
Posted on 4/25/14 at 3:19 pm to lsufball19
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no, that's exactly what college athletes do. and the ones who are actually serious about getting their degree, go back to class in the offseason.
I'll say again, why then is Sentimore complaining about not having a degree if it were that easy to go back? It's just a question.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 3:20 pm to abellsujr
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I'll say again, why then is Sentimore complaining about not having a degree if it were that easy to go back? It's just a question.
like someone else said it could be that he left in poor academic standing. if so, that's on him. if he's complaining about the cost of tuition, i don't feel sorry for him and don't view that as a hard road. it's the road most people take. he just sounds immature and spoiled.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 3:30 pm to lsufball19
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like someone else said it could be that he left in poor academic standing. if so, that's on him. if he's complaining about the cost of tuition, i don't feel sorry for him and don't view that as a hard road. it's the road most people take. he just sounds immature and spoiled.
I don't feel bad for him either. It's a tough decision though for someone in his shoes. My standing is that middle to late rounders are taking a chance and have something to lose if they declare early.
And not everyone goes to college and gets a degree. Even if most people do it, that doesnt make it easy. And I said this before, going to school under the umbrella of a football progarm and scholorship is much easier than the road most of us have to take.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 4:21 pm to ffishstik
It's not as cut and dry as people believe. What is that shitty degree, they got in that useless major going to do for them in the real world? Most college players pick crap majors just to get by until the NFL starts calling. Is it a good idea, maybe, maybe not. Maybe some of them could not remain eligible in classes that are more useful to them in the future. So it becomes NFL, some kind of pro league, and/or finishing up the useless degree. Sure it looks nice, but many people period get degrees in fields that would not really make them much money.
Not all are like that mind you, but you have to be pretty naive to think that's not on most football player's minds. Get early while you still have some health and maybe you can make a couple hundred grand or million. Finish up the degree later (or the next year) whether it's useful in the real world or not. Why do you think the transfers are now rampant everywhere!?
I'll leave you with one last thing, on some, it's the most logical decision like Ford who was stuck in a deep rotation with Hill looking like the top dog. His stock would have got him what, 5th round if he produced a little better? There was no reason to come back for that. Try your luck, hopefully pocket a couple grand (rent out a place and get a cheap car), go back and get your degree (whether useless or useful), and then figure out what to do next.
This post was edited on 4/26/14 at 4:28 pm
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