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Neighborhood Comparables
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:15 am
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:15 am
In another thread I mentioned buying a lot. Now that the lot is purchased I was wondering how the comparable houses in the neighborhood would work if my home that I am planning on building is more expensive? Say the normal houses and lot are 269k and the one I build would be a little over 300k would that present a problem with appraisal and financing?
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:35 am to daviddsims
Are there comparable properties within a reasonable distance? It's never good to be king of the neighborhood but if there are similar houses nearby you should be ok.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:36 am to daviddsims
Are the other houses in the neighborhood new? Will yours have more square footage or better amenities?
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:38 am to ItzMe1972
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Are the other houses in the neighborhood new? Will yours have more square footage or better amenities?
Yes in the subdivision there are plenty of new houses just not on my road. The developer just developed this land at the end of an existing road and I would be the first on the land.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:41 am to daviddsims
Why would yours be more expensive? Why would an appraiser value it higher?
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:43 am to ItzMe1972
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Why would yours be more expensive? Why would an appraiser value it higher?
I am not sure it would be more expensive. I am in the process of picking out plans and really don't have a good basis on cost per sq foot. I was thinking in the $125 range but may be totally off with that number. Again in the very early stages of planning.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:50 am to daviddsims
The appraiser is going to be looking to see if your house is "comparable" or "superior" to others.
Unless he finds more square footage or better amenities, there is no reason to value it higher.
Hope that helps!
Unless he finds more square footage or better amenities, there is no reason to value it higher.
Hope that helps!
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:57 am to ItzMe1972
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Hope that helps!
Nope big help. I went into this with some assumptions on building cost and apparently off on that. Went to parish assessor website and looks like similar homes (2400 sq ft) are priced about $110 per foot. I know there are many variables such as upgrades but this seems to be the median for this area.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 10:09 am to daviddsims
If you have a realtor friend, they can print out recent sales in the neighborhood.
You should see a range of dollars/square foot which should help with your planning.
You should see a range of dollars/square foot which should help with your planning.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 10:19 am to ItzMe1972
Actually looking on our parish assessor website is a huge help. You can look any property up in the parish and what they paid for land and home.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 11:43 am to daviddsims
Need to be comparing dollars per square foot.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 2:03 pm to ItzMe1972
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Need to be comparing dollars per square foot.
Does anyone know how that is figured? Total heated sq feet or total?
Posted on 4/18/14 at 4:02 pm to daviddsims
Just some thoughts:
Appraisers are typically lazy and cautious. They'll going to base your appraisal off of price per square foot comps mainly. This is done by heated "living" area only. So 120$/SF granite counter tops or something like that is not going to be seen as an added value. So goes for most other amenity levels; floors, etc.
Don't be the biggest house in the neighborhood for sure, and try to not be the absolute smallest.
Prices per square foot goes down as the total living area goes up. So your comps need to fall closely in line with the square footage, not just neighborhood. For example, a 1500SF house @ $150/SF does not translate to a 4000SF house appraising for $600k.
Just my thoughts, take them FWTW
Appraisers are typically lazy and cautious. They'll going to base your appraisal off of price per square foot comps mainly. This is done by heated "living" area only. So 120$/SF granite counter tops or something like that is not going to be seen as an added value. So goes for most other amenity levels; floors, etc.
Don't be the biggest house in the neighborhood for sure, and try to not be the absolute smallest.
Prices per square foot goes down as the total living area goes up. So your comps need to fall closely in line with the square footage, not just neighborhood. For example, a 1500SF house @ $150/SF does not translate to a 4000SF house appraising for $600k.
Just my thoughts, take them FWTW
Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:55 pm to daviddsims
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Does anyone know how that is figured? Total heated sq feet or total?
You only count "conditioned spaces"; not garages, porches, patios, unfinished utility basements, etc... It's habitable space that is counted as square footage. Also, you use the OUTSIDE wall dimensions to calculate the square footage of single family houses. On condos since one kindasorta doesn't own the exterior walls, the Living Space dimensions are calculated using INTERIOR room dimensions.
This post was edited on 4/18/14 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 4/18/14 at 6:17 pm to soccerfüt
Thanks a bunch to everyone offering advice. Looks like in the West Monroe area you can get some good homes for 110-120 heated sq foot.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 7:19 pm to daviddsims
quote:Generally, it's a better investment to be priced mid-neighborhood rather than top-of-neighborhood. That's only apropos though if you're approaching the equation (as you should) from an investment perspective.
Thanks a bunch to everyone offering advice. Looks like in the West Monroe area you can get some good homes for 110-120 heated sq foot.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:11 pm to NC_Tigah
Don't put much stock in what the assessor has on the parish website. Especially if any of your neighbors self contracted. I've got homes in my neighborhood where their appraised value, according to tax log is $400k and they are currently selling for $650k.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 6:55 am to guttata
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Don't put much stock in what the assessor has on the parish website. Especially if any of your neighbors self contracted. I've got homes in my neighborhood where their appraised value, according to tax log is $400k and they are currently selling for $650k.
This.
I think the most important thing is if the new phase lots have been priced more. If your matching materials and conditioned square footage for the dwelling only, then you should be able to get it built in the same price range. New construction will likely carry a little premium over resale, so I'd comp those vs resale in your hood.
Also always see if you can walk through another home the builder you are thinking of using has built. I do this with all my new construction clients, making sure we're happy with quality & contracting on apples to apples to construction materials
Posted on 4/19/14 at 10:25 am to ItNeverRains
Your home will never appraise for its true value if its the biggest/best amenities in the neighborhood. You have to keep the size and finishing amenities consistent for the neighborhood you're in if you want actual value of your home to be reflected in its appraised value.
Example: Building a two story home in a neighborhood full of single stories is going to depress the overall value of your home, even if its the most valuable/biggest/best. This is because folks looking for a two story home aren't looking in a neighborhood full of one story homes. This home becomes a "White Elephant" property within the neighborhood and its true value is depressed as a result of being out of place within the area it's built in a sense.
Appraisers are lazy. They are cautious. But underwriters for lenders who may loan you money for your home and/or a buyer to take it off your hands down the road have access to look up recent sales in the neighborhood during the process of reviewing appraisals as part of loan applications they're underwriting. I've seen them ask for multiple additional comps to force the appraiser into utilizing more realistic comparable properties which adjust homes downward towards the value they feel is appropriate based on their opinion.
And ultimately, the appraisers opinion does not matter. The Underwriter's opinion does. Because they are the one with the approval/denial power in the process.
Or course in cash sale examples, this entire discussion is moot. But that's a tiny fraction of situations.
Example: Building a two story home in a neighborhood full of single stories is going to depress the overall value of your home, even if its the most valuable/biggest/best. This is because folks looking for a two story home aren't looking in a neighborhood full of one story homes. This home becomes a "White Elephant" property within the neighborhood and its true value is depressed as a result of being out of place within the area it's built in a sense.
Appraisers are lazy. They are cautious. But underwriters for lenders who may loan you money for your home and/or a buyer to take it off your hands down the road have access to look up recent sales in the neighborhood during the process of reviewing appraisals as part of loan applications they're underwriting. I've seen them ask for multiple additional comps to force the appraiser into utilizing more realistic comparable properties which adjust homes downward towards the value they feel is appropriate based on their opinion.
And ultimately, the appraisers opinion does not matter. The Underwriter's opinion does. Because they are the one with the approval/denial power in the process.
Or course in cash sale examples, this entire discussion is moot. But that's a tiny fraction of situations.
This post was edited on 4/19/14 at 10:29 am
Posted on 4/19/14 at 11:15 am to GFunk
Good points everyone. This is a very large subdivision that has a mix of two and one story homes but the new road mainly has single story homes and I am looking to build a two. I am assuming they would pull from the whole neighborhood and not just my street?
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