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re: Tahj Jones shot, in serious condition after surgery

Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:47 am to
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:47 am to
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If TJ dies, he's in really big trouble, though.



Newsflash for you blueboy, he's in BIG fricking trouble either way! His life is over and he's going to spend over 25 yrs in prison.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:06 am to
quote:

had a total knee. in and out in 24 hours.
hospital was beautiful and pristine and they still wanted me out asap to give the least possible chance of picking up an infection.



HAI is only partially why you were likely D/C'd home quickly.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66925 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:21 am to
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Update after surgery:
They removed the bullet, no plate was needed (praise God) the doctor was very pleased with everything he saw ... He put the feeding tube in and sewed him up! Time to start healing. They will take him off the ventilator tomorrow. If he does good , after that he will be moved to a regular room!

His family and friends really appreciate all the thoughts and prayers! They have been reading the thread and asked for this to be posted to get out some accurate info on his condition.


Posted by West Central Tiger
Tiger Country
Member since Feb 2006
1154 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:35 am to
Thank you.

Prayer for Tahj and his family continues.

Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:55 am to
quote:

Newsflash for you blueboy, he's in BIG fricking trouble either way! His life is over and he's going to spend over 25 yrs in prison.


Probably way too early to think about this, but I wonder if he could plead down to involuntary manslaughter somehow. Sounds like a long short but maybe with the right lawyer
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

Probably way too early to think about this, but I wonder if he could plead down to involuntary manslaughter somehow. Sounds like a long short but maybe with the right lawyer


Why would a prosecutor offer him a plea that low. I definitely assuming he basically was pissed over a girl and shot him for that. I have no clue if there was a fight, self defense, etc..If he shot him in a way that could kil him (that's obvious now), then he would at least be charged for attempted 1st degree murder and there would be little if any plea offered without some sort of leverage in his defense.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:57 pm to
I really have no idea. Just a thought since they were both fighting... I don't know the specifics

It's just a crappy situation all around, obviously for Tahj but Brandon just pissed his entire life away in what seems like the heat of the moment.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
17846 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:26 pm to
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1st degree murder


The shooting wasn't premeditated. Doesn't qualify as attempted 1st degree murder.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:33 pm to
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Keep it up, Tahj!


Amen!

Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43103 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:33 pm to
I'm blind
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 1:34 pm
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:11 pm to
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It's just a crappy situation all around, obviously for Tahj but Brandon just pissed his entire life away in what seems like the heat of the moment.
Im not sure Brandons life was going all that well before he tried to kill tahj


glad tahj appears to be doing better
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:18 pm to
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The shooting wasn't premeditated. Doesn't qualify as attempted 1st degree murder.


Agreed, kinda....I have no details other than rumors and print news, but it is possible he did have time to retrieve a gun and go confront TJ wherever this happened...instead of it just being a spontaneous fight/shooting.

The DA won't sit on his hands for this one..if it is possible, they will put the heaviest charge on him that they can because of the heavy statewide coverage of LSU players.
Posted by cheesesteak501
The South
Member since Mar 2014
3152 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 3:07 pm to
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but it is possible he did have time to retrieve a gun and go confront TJ wherever this happened...instead of it just being a spontaneous fight/shooting.


If he didn't plan on doing it before he showed up, its not first degree. Wouldn't matter if he went to his car to get a gun.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 3:08 pm
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20381 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 3:16 pm to
I am not a criminal defense attorney, but from what I remember from crim law this no way gets bumped up from attempted manslaughter to attempted murder. Caveat: I am not familiar with LA law.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
17846 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 4:00 pm to
premeditated means to think out or plan beforehand. I doubt the time it took Winey to get his gun would define premeditated. It's more like a "crime of passion."
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
17846 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 4:04 pm to
Winey was charged with attempted 2nd degree murder.

second degree murder n. a non-premeditated killing, resulting from an assault in which death of the victim was a distinct possibility. Second degree murder is different from First Degree Murder which is a premeditated, intentional killing, or results from a vicious crime such as arson, rape, or armed robbery. Exact distinctions on degree vary by state.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 5:00 pm to
Winey could also very well plead down to aggravated 2nd degree battery with a deadly weapon, which carries a max 15 year sentence instead of facing life in prison. i'd be shocked, if at the very least, this wasn't ultimately a lesser included offense on the official indictment
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 5:01 pm
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
5148 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:54 pm to
If that is the definition of 2nd degree murder, then throw the book at him
Posted by AHOUSEUNITED
ATL
Member since Aug 2012
767 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:07 am to
Good to hear that Tahj is doing better...prayers goin up again.


quote:

Not to get too far off track, but LINK



Jim, I got my info here...guess I shouldn't be too surprised that a state website is out-of-date or giving incorrect info SMH...
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:48 am to
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Winey could also very well plead down to aggravated 2nd degree battery with a deadly weapon, which carries a max 15 year sentence instead of facing life in prison. i'd be shocked, if at the very least, this wasn't ultimately a lesser included offense on the official indictment


This is what I was thinking with my post. I have no problems with the attempted 2nd degree murder charge but if you can avoid a trial and still put him away for a long time (sooner), then why not?
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