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Bigpoppat
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re: Tahj Jones shot, in serious condition after surgery

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First Degree Murder which is a premeditated


You've said this multiple times but you're wrong. The First Degree Murder Statute has nothing to do with "premeditated".



Jamohn
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re: Tahj Jones shot, in serious condition after surgery
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You've said this multiple times but you're wrong. The First Degree Murder Statute has nothing to do with "premeditated".
True. Louisiana's first degree murder statute is built around a specific list of aggravating factors that would elevate a murder to first degree. Most of them have to do with the identity of the victim--elderly, child, law enforcement, etc. I'm pretty sure Tahj doesn't fit any of those descriptions.

Some have to do with what else the killer may have been doing at the time--certain crimes such as specific enumerated crimes like kidnapping. As far as we know, this situation won't fit any of those either.


supatigah
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re: Tahj Jones shot, in serious condition after surgery
man, how good was the poontang to shoot another brother for it?


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ELVIS U
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re: Tahj Jones shot, in serious condition after surgery
Depends on how you define premeditated. If you are defining it as killing with the specific intent to kill or inflict great bodily injury, then yes, Louisiana's first degree murder statute has it. If you are talking about making some long and drawn out scheme to commit murder, then no not that's not what is contemplated in any of our laws. But it only takes a second to develop the specific intent to kill, just as it only takes a second of contemplation to premeditate. Some people use the words interchangeably. You know what they mean, get over it.


tadelatt
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re: Tahj Jones shot, in serious condition after surgery
Doesn't matter really, live or die it was attempted murder and he will do 25 to life, probably life


Bigpoppat
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re: Tahj Jones shot, in serious condition after surgery
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Doesn't matter really, live or die it was attempted murder and he will do 25 to life, probably life


Attempted Second Degree Murder is 10-50 years (assuming defendant has no prior felonies)


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re: Tahj Jones shot, in serious condition after surgery
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Attempted Second Degree Murder is 10-50 years (assuming defendant has no prior felonies)

not sure how Louisiana treats attempt charges (LA law is so ridiculous), but assuming that it treats attempts as other states do - attempt penalties are the same as if you actually completed the underlying crime, the punishment for 2nd degree murder is:
B. Whoever commits the crime of second degree murder shall be punished by life imprisonment at hard labor without benefit of parole, probation, or suspension of sentence.


Kingpenm3
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re: Tahj Jones shot, in serious condition after surgery
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Doesn't matter really, live or die it was attempted murder and he will do 25 to life, probably life



I know nothing. But I was wondering when a "crime of passion" is considered.


Dale Doubak
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re: Tahj Jones shot, in serious condition after surgery
I haven't been on all day but yesterday he was doing better and after his second surgery he is worse? What happened


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ELVIS U
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re: Tahj Jones shot, in serious condition after surgery
Attempt is half and in La half of life is 50 years


Camo Tiger 337
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re: Tahj Jones shot, in serious condition after surgery
Isn't this guy's dad the principle at an elementary school?


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cas4t
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re: Tahj Jones shot, in serious condition after surgery
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Depends on how you define premeditated.


this is not how it works. Premeditated murder is pretty cut and dry.


MintBerry Crunch
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re: Tahj Jones shot, in serious condition after surgery
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this is not how it works. Premeditated murder is pretty cut and dry.


Louisiana murder statutes never say the word premeditated anywhere, so let's stop using that word. If I planned out a murder and police found my plans, it would still be second degree murder.

First Degree Murder Statutes

Second Degree Murder Statutes

Also, each statute is preceded by
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When the offender has a specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm
, which means that any accidental death (i.e. Manslaughter) does not fall under the classification of murder.

This is attempted second degree murder.



Dale Doubak
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re: Tahj Jones shot, in serious condition after surgery
I see this thread had fallen off. Any new news?


TorNation
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re: Tahj Jones shot, in serious condition after surgery
Moved from ICU into a private room. They've got him up and standing. He's doing very well all things considered.


White Roach
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re: Tahj Jones shot, in serious condition after surgery
Thanks for the update. This thread had devolved into a debate on legal semantics.


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