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NFL Considering Changes to the Goal Posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 7:23 am
Posted on 3/20/14 at 7:23 am
quote:Coupled with the idea from a few weeks back about lengthening the extra point try, I guess I don't understand the reasoning behind this other than (and I'm reading between the lines here) "It's apparently gotten easier for kickers". What? The goal posts haven't changed in recent history, why do this because all of a sudden kickers are nailing 87% of their tries? Maybe it's a good era in place kicking?
Falcons CEO Rich McKay said the idea of narrowing the goal posts has been discussed a lot this year.
NFL kickers converted 86.6 percent of field goals last season, up from around 59 percent in 1970. "We have had some really good discussions about that," McKay said. "I do not think there is enough momentum to do it this year, but I think there will be discussions with the goal post going forward." Other kicking ideas on the radar include pushing extra point tries back to the 25-yard line and extending the height of the goal posts by five feet.
What the NFL is saying is based off one year's worth of accuracy stats. Right? I'm understanding that based off one year of accuracy stats, they want to completely change the dimensions of the goal posts. I don't get it.
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 7:30 am to The Sad Banana
Can't just let a great game be. They're going to tinker until it's completely fricked.
Posted on 3/20/14 at 7:34 am to The Sad Banana
I'm really starting to dislike the NFL.
Posted on 3/20/14 at 7:35 am to St Augustine
I saw last night that there are 13 rule change proposals being discussed at the upcoming meetings.
They keep tinkering with everything. The game will be unrecognizable in 10 years.
They keep tinkering with everything. The game will be unrecognizable in 10 years.
Posted on 3/20/14 at 7:36 am to The Sad Banana
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What the NFL is saying is based off one year's worth of accuracy stats. Right? I'm understanding that based off one year of accuracy stats, they want to completely change the dimensions of the goal posts.
No, they're saying the accuracy of place kickers has improved 27.6% in 44 years.
Posted on 3/20/14 at 7:38 am to TbirdSpur2010
No, that's one year (2013) over another one year (1970). That is cherrypicking.
Posted on 3/20/14 at 7:41 am to The Sad Banana
Man I'm just trying to help you out with the logic here 
The point is that placekicking has markedly improved in the modern era of football.
The point is that placekicking has markedly improved in the modern era of football.
This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 7:42 am
Posted on 3/20/14 at 7:43 am to TbirdSpur2010
I get it, but I'm also trying to help you understand that the way they portray their logic is flawed. You can't cherrypick two years, subtract the difference and call that a representation of what's happened over 44 years.
Posted on 3/20/14 at 7:51 am to The Sad Banana
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I get it, but I'm also trying to help you understand that the way they portray their logic is flawed. You can't cherrypick two years, subtract the difference and call that a representation of what's happened over 44 years.
Now hold on, that's not what you were saying earlier...
You tryna shift the goalposts here son?
Posted on 3/20/14 at 7:51 am to The Sad Banana
I really don't think that's the point. Placekicking has improved by any metric you care to use. It'd be a different matter if they're saying that simply because 2013 was better than 1970, the change needed to be made, but that's not what the discussion is being based off of.
I think the beef might be with the article presenting it in a way that it could be interpreted as such. I would have cited the average rise in accuracy percentage per year, but honestly I think most who read it will get the gist.
Man, it is too early for me to be nitpicking 
I think the beef might be with the article presenting it in a way that it could be interpreted as such. I would have cited the average rise in accuracy percentage per year, but honestly I think most who read it will get the gist.
Man, it is too early for me to be nitpicking
Posted on 3/20/14 at 7:56 am to TbirdSpur2010
But picking nits is what we do here! I don't think placekicking is that easy. There are teams out there that have struggled getting reliable kicking, my team included. I don't have a problem with making things more difficult, but in this case I don't see how the ends justify the means.
Posted on 3/20/14 at 7:58 am to BCMCubs
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They keep tinkering with everything. The game will be unrecognizable in 10 years.
Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:01 am to The Sad Banana
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picking nits is what we do here!
True, true!
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I don't have a problem with making things more difficult, but in this case I don't see how the ends justify the means.
I think placekicking needs to be reevaluated, especially extra points at the pro level.
Not sure how I feel about changing the actual goal posts, though, to be honest with you. Don't think I'd have a problem with making them taller, but beyond that idk.
Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:03 am to PhiTiger1764
The constant rule changes in football just for the sake of rule changes have become pretty frustrating. A great game should be timeless and shouldn't need massive rule changes every year. Whether or not you like baseball, there probably isn't a large rule change more than once or twice every 50 years.
Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:04 am to TbirdSpur2010
In my thread earlier about making extra points more difficult, I agreed that maybe extra points are a bit..I don't know...I guess they're a formality. I'm okay with making them longer, but I thought moving the ball to the 25 (a 42 yard attempt) was kind of too much of a change.
Was that where they wanted to spot for extra points? I seem to remember it being the 25.
Was that where they wanted to spot for extra points? I seem to remember it being the 25.
Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:08 am to The Sad Banana
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extra points are a bit..I don't know...I guess they're a formality.
They really are at this point. When viewing them through the prism of what they were intended for (decreasing the frequency of tie ballgames since OT wasn't an option), they really serve no purpose in the pro ranks anymore in their current form.
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Was that where they wanted to spot for extra points? I seem to remember it being the 25.
I believe you're correct.
Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:10 am to Patron Saint
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A great game should be timeless and shouldn't need massive rule changes every year.
Agree with you up to a point.
But football hasn't had "massive" changes every year, and the current issue isn't just for the sake of changing the rules, IMHO.
Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:24 am to The Sad Banana
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In my thread earlier about making extra points more difficult, I agreed that maybe extra points are a bit..I don't know...I guess they're a formality. I'm okay with making them longer, but I thought moving the ball to the 25 (a 42 yard attempt) was kind of too much of a change. Was that where they wanted to spot for extra points? I seem to remember it being the 25.
The funny thing about that is that pretty much every kicker was 90% of above on kicks between 40-49yds. So you back them up from the 2 to the 25, and there's a negligible drop off in completions.
The funny thing is, no kicker missed more than one XP. And of those only David Akers missed more than one FG between 40-49 yards.
Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:28 am to The Sad Banana
I think they should widen the hash marks to the collegiate level. Let the pros deal with some tougher angles.
Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:31 am to Wayne Campbell
Raising the cross bar is a good idea. Secondary benefit is idiots will have to stop dunking the football after scoring
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