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Dr. Richard Saul: ADHD Does Not Exist

Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:28 am
Posted by Displaced
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:28 am
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Over the course of my career, I have found more than 20 conditions that can lead to symptoms of ADHD, each of which requires its own approach to treatment. Raising a generation of children—and now adults—who can't live without stimulants is no solution.


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Today, the fifth edition of the DSM only requires one to fulfill five of eighteen possible symptoms to qualify for an ADHD diagnosis. If you haven’t seen the list yet, look it up. It will probably bother you. How many of us can claim we have difficulty with organization, or a tendency to lose things; that we are frequently forgetful, distracted, or fail to pay close attention to details? Under this subjective criteria, the entire U.S. population could potentially qualify. We’ve all had these moments, and in moderate amounts, it’s a normal part of the human condition.

However, there are some instances in which attention symptoms are severe enough that patients truly need help. Over the course of my career, I have found more than 20 conditions that can lead to symptoms of ADHD, each of which requires its own approach to treatment. Among these are sleep disorders, undiagnosed vision and hearing problems, substance abuse (marijuana and alcohol in particular), iron deficiency, allergies (especially airborne and gluten intolerance), bipolar and major depressive disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, and even learning disabilities like dyslexia, to name a few. Anyone with these issues will fit the ADHD criteria outlined by the DSM, but stimulants are not the way to treat them.


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In my view, there are two types of people who are diagnosed with ADHD: those who exhibit a normal level of distraction and impulsiveness, and those who have another condition or disorder that requires individual treatment.

For my patients who are the former, I recommend that they eat right, exercise more often, get eight hours of quality sleep a night, minimize caffeine intake in the afternoon, monitor their cellphone use while they’re working, and most importantly, do something they’re passionate about. As with many children who act out because they are not being challenged enough in the classroom, adults who have work or class subjects that are not personally fulfilling, or who don’t engage in a meaningful hobby, will understandably become bored, depressed, and distracted. Similarly, today’s standards are pressuring children and adults to perform better and longer at school and at work. I too often see patients who hope to excel on four hours of sleep a night with help from stimulants, but this is a dangerous, unhealthy and unsustainable way of living long-term.


granted, I am no Behavioral Neurologist, but i am glad to see medical opinions like this. I have always thought this "disease" to be a sham.

Pumping drugs down your kid's throat is easier than parenting though.
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Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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each of which requires its own approach to treatment.


yeah medicine.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:34 am to
Big money in having people hooked on drugs.
Posted by LSUTiger205
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Its still in the DSM V, so...GFY Dr. Saul.
Posted by TypoKnig
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There are more treatment options than meds...




Yea except the treatments take more time and effort than filling a prescription.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:36 am to
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For my patients who are the former, I recommend that they eat right, exercise more often, get eight hours of quality sleep a night, minimize caffeine intake in the afternoon, monitor their cellphone use while they’re working, and most importantly, do something they’re passionate about. As with many children who act out because they are not being challenged enough in the classroom, adults who have work or class subjects that are not personally fulfilling, or who don’t engage in a meaningful hobby, will understandably become bored, depressed, and distracted.



I wonder how many cases of ADHD could be solved by simply following this advice?
Posted by Displaced
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Big money in having people hooked on drugs.


i understnad that aspect of it. If people are gonna buy the pharm companies durgs, they would be stupid not to sell them.

I blame the parents who put their kids on drugs because "oh... my 7 year old cant sit still after eating pixie sticks and mcdonalds for lunch. He must have ADHD"
Posted by panterica
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It is a symptom, not a disease. But doctors are only treating the symptoms, not curing a disease. This isn't exactly ground-breaking news.
Posted by Alt26
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Pumping drugs down your kid's throat is easier than parenting though.


Bingo.

However, get ready for this generation's college students to come rolling in to this thread giving you reasons why they REALLY DO HAVE ADHD and how ritalin, adderall, etc. are wonder drugs without which they would have never succeeded in school. That is of course once the meds kick in and they can focus on such tasks.
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Posted by Seven Costanza
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granted, I am no Behavioral Neurologist, but i am glad to see medical opinions like this. I have always thought this "disease" to be a sham.


Posted by Putty
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:49 am to
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ADHD Does Not Exist


bullshite. I am a victim of this terrible disease, which my parents neglected to treat, causing a precipitous decline in my well-being and quality of life. Specifically, I abhor tedious details requiring the expense of effort to grasp and much prefer doing what the frick I want with my time which, as a child, was running around like a fricking lunatic.
Posted by bamafan425
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:50 am to
Half the kids I knew with ADD or ADHD couldn't sit still in class, but could go home and play a video game for 6 hours each night without moving.
Posted by SundayFunday
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:52 am to
Didnt't the guy who first "discovered" ADHD came out on his death bed that it was all shite?
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:55 am to
ADHD and asthma are the tickets for many to SSI.
Posted by beaverfever
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I have taken ADD meds and I don't think it's so much a condition as it is a struggle with some people to live in a 21st century environment that they weren't made for.
Posted by Clark W Griswold
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:00 am to
I've always felt it was a fake disease. I had friends who "had it" as a kid and they all shared one thing in common: shitty parents who wouldn't give them attention. So they acted like an idiot in school and have to medicated for it. As an adult, if you can't manage well enough without meds to concentrate then you just need to grow the frick up.
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