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re: Physical silver

Posted on 11/5/14 at 4:47 pm to
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 4:47 pm to
20 March 2014

Russian:
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I think silver will fall 25-50% over the next year. As QE ends, metals will drop, imo.

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I'm going to wait for silver to go below $15/oz before I buy.



IG:
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I'll beleive $15 silver when I see it. If it were to happen, I would be a hoarder of silver.



Well, we're at ~$15.30
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 4:49 pm
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 4:55 pm to
We're at $15.42 spot on the ask. When it hits $15 I'm going to be ready to buy physical silver again. Although I'd be averaging my cost up which is something I don't like to do often.
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 5:02 pm to
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When it hits $15 I'm going to be ready to buy physical silver again. Although I'd be averaging my cost up
I doubt many can say that about buying at $15.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 6:46 pm to
I probably should have sold some at $45, or whatever it got to.

I think silver long term is the best precious metal to own for a variety of reason, including it has some huge upside.

Having said all of this, it's not clear to me how long it can keep going down before supply dwindles. It's not clear to me how long other countries keeping starting additional central bank interventions. I suspect the BoJ had as much to do with the recent decline as the Fed did. The million dollar questions.
Posted by matthew25
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Posted on 11/6/14 at 12:40 am to
I'll have to check out the price of a roll of silver quarters on Ebay. Several years ago, I paid $90 a roll for 50 rolls.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 11/6/14 at 8:28 am to
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I suspect the BoJ had as much to do with the recent decline as the Fed did.
What the BoJ did should have put upwards pressure on precious metals, not downward.
Posted by Ole War Skule
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Posted on 11/6/14 at 8:35 am to
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What the BoJ did should have put upwards pressure on precious metals, not downward.



I would think BOJ actions would drive up dollar value, making silver (all hard assets) cheaper per dollar?

silver would be more expensive in Yen, but less in dollars, right?

(I'm not saying this is the case, I'm asking what logic on both views would be)
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 8:36 am
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 11/6/14 at 8:35 am to
Should have, but it didn't when the USA first announced QE either.

I'm not convinced higher interest rates will drive pm's down either. I suspect by the time interest rates start to rise, it will already be chasing inflation. An argument could be made it already is.

The equities market has reacted to news in the logical manner (mostly) throughout this, but the pm markets have not.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/6/14 at 8:36 am to
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Russian:

quote:
I think silver will fall 25-50% over the next year. As QE ends, metals will drop, imo.

quote:
I'm going to wait for silver to go below $15/oz before I buy.



IG:

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I'll beleive $15 silver when I see it. If it were to happen, I would be a hoarder of silver.
When I made that prediction silver was $20.43/oz.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/6/14 at 8:45 am to
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I'm asking what logic on both views would be)
More liquidity usually means higher PM prices due to more money going into buying the metals. In theory, the Japanese would have been buying silver as an inflation hedge to counter the BoJ's inflationary monetary policy which would drive the price of silver up worldwide.

Silver is fungible. It can be bought with any hard currency and the yen is definitely fully convertible.

Precious metals have been in an historic price bubble since the 2008/2009 financial crisis with all of the world's major central banks increasing their money supplies. The air is coming out of that bubble.

Silver will go below $15/oz. When I made that prediction last March it seemed a little crazy because it was at $20.43 and was a recent near low price at that time.

But now it's accepted as a "of course it will, everybody knows that!" type of statement.
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 8:56 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:11 pm to
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I'll have to check out the price of a roll of silver quarters on Ebay. Several years ago, I paid $90 a roll for 50 rolls.

I've noticed a price decrease in collectible (old) silver coins on eBay. Last week I bought an 1899 New Orleans minted silver dollar in very good condition for $19 on eBay.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 8:19 am to
90% silver, melt value $12? If so, makes sense since physical premiums are up.

If not, either 90%, or correct melt value, you got a deal.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 11/14/14 at 7:37 am to
Normal backwardation. Is it yet, yet? Not yet.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:01 am to
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Normal backwardation. Is it yet, yet? Not yet.
It is in Alabama.....
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:03 am to
I heard they have a football team.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:21 am to
What does someone in Iowa know about football teams???
Posted by TigerTatorTots
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Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:23 pm to
Silver up over 4% today. I haven't heard any news; anyone know the cause?
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 9:56 am to
Iowa 4 Wins. SEC 2 wins. We have struggled against the SEC. We'll be back. Some day.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 7:51 pm to
Iowa, home of the right of first refusal in perpetuity on the USM logo, so there's that.

I have physical silver that I've held for so long that it would be shameful to everyone else here for me to say what number I got in at on it. I'm going to never sell it, more than likely, I just like having it as an old school piggybank on steriods.

I want it to be amongst my executrix's surprises to my heirs.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 7:57 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18936 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 5:53 pm to
Well, there it is...physical silver is BELOW $15.
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