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Getting into the cattle business

Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:29 am
Posted by HuntFishMan
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:29 am
My neighbor is leasing me 15 acres of fenced pasture with barns etc on property. Not really trying to make any money at first just trying to learn. Looking to get a few beef heifers and steers. Anyone know any good stockyards or any people that have some for sale currently? Any tips are welcome
Posted by TheGreat318
West of Bossier
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:35 am to
Paging TClayboy...
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38725 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:36 am to
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Anyone know any good stockyards or any people that have some for sale currently?


I'd stay away from buying out of a salebarn, everything will come home with the scours (shitting everywhere). There is literally decades worth of shite and bacteria piled up in salebarns.

If you can buy some off a farm you'll get a lot healthier cattle.

For a small farm of 15 acres, you'll never make money with a cow/calf operation. You need to go buy 10 weanling(6 month old) steers from somebody and grow them for a year. Sell, repeat.

If you want the joy of cow calf operation and don't care about making money get something cool. I raise and sell registered Texas Longhorns. Legit to look at and fool with, but they won't bring what a black cow will money wise when it is time to sell.
Posted by HuntFishMan
Member since Feb 2014
304 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:38 am to
I'll look into it. Thanks for the advice.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38725 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:42 am to
Where are you out of? I know a guy that has over 400 head of Angus and angus cross beef cattle. He works and sells in October every year and treats you fair if you come get them.

That's the next question. Do you have a trailer or access to one? You have to have a way to move them...
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:50 am to
quote:

I'd stay away from buying out of a salebarn, everything will come home with the scours (shitting everywhere). There is literally decades worth of shite and bacteria piled up in salebarns.

If you can buy some off a farm you'll get a lot healthier cattle.

For a small farm of 15 acres, you'll never make money with a cow/calf operation. You need to go buy 10 weanling(6 month old) steers from somebody and grow them for a year. Sell, repeat.

If you want the joy of cow calf operation and don't care about making money get something cool. I raise and sell registered Texas Longhorns. Legit to look at and fool with, but they won't bring what a black cow will money wise when it is time to sell.


This is spot on. I'll add to stay away from dairy type breeds
This post was edited on 3/13/14 at 9:54 am
Posted by Merica
'Merica
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:50 am to
I know nothing about the cattle business so I do not know how doable this is with a small pasture, but one of my good buddy's pow pow made a great living off of buying weak/sick/malnourished cattle for dirt cheap and basically nursing them back to health and beefing them up a lot then selling. Sounds more of something you would have to do after having plenty of experience around cattle but just a thought. good luck
This post was edited on 3/13/14 at 9:51 am
Posted by Camo Tiger 337
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2014
2014 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:58 am to
Mine pretty much did the same thing . I never tried to get into it myself, but he did buy them sick or underweight and sell them once they're 100%. He also did the same thing with air conditioners and washers/dryers. Mainly air conditioners as he put an ad in the thrifty nickel saying he'd buy any broken air conditioners for $12-24(old days, when he was way younger, 72 now). He made a killing off of that. Most of the time it was just the thermostat was too low .
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38725 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:00 am to
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get something cool. I raise and sell registered Texas Longhorns.


A little over dramatic, but this is from an ice storm we had in early February.

Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38725 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:03 am to
quote:

I know nothing about the cattle business so I do not know how doable this is with a small pasture, but one of my good buddy's pow pow made a great living off of buying weak/sick/malnourished cattle for dirt cheap and basically nursing them back to health and beefing them up a lot then selling.


I know a guy who did this too. Cows are bringing a lot of money these days and look to go higher.

The guy was telling me he used to buy sick/weak calves for like $20 buck at the salebarn and nurse them back. He said one came through a few months ago and he thought here's a good opportunity. I'll bid on him.

The little bastard bought $250.

He said, frick that.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38725 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:23 am to
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For a small farm of 15 acres, you'll never make money with a cow/calf operation. You need to go buy 10 weanling(6 month old) steers from somebody and grow them for a year. Sell, repeat.


Get black baldy steer calves. Then you want the scene to look like this a year later. There is probably $40,000 standing in that ring, if not more.



Of course, that is a lot more heads than you could raise on 15 acres.
Posted by Jarlaxle
Calimport
Member since Dec 2010
2868 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:29 am to
quote:

15 acres of fenced pasture with barns etc on property


Raise goats!
Posted by HuntFishMan
Member since Feb 2014
304 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:34 am to
I've had goats and have had bad experiences, they get out of everything and die
Posted by LSUTiger205
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Aug 2006
10820 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:34 am to
Alpaca for the mother fricking win
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38725 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:35 am to
quote:

Raise goats!


That's actually not a bad idea. Boer goats and boer cross bring good money. I don't know who is buying them or how big the market is for goat meat, but you can fit a lot more of them on 15 acres than you can cows.

You've got to have a net wire fence though...
Posted by HuntFishMan
Member since Feb 2014
304 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:35 am to
Yea buying scrubby cows and nursing them back is an option, I don't want to bottle feed though so they need to be weaned
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Getting into the cattle business
know what you're doing?

if not, you'll lose money
if so, you'll lose money


Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38725 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:40 am to
quote:

know what you're doing?

if not, you'll lose money
if so, you'll lose money


That is preety much true. Plus you have to like fooling with them. It's always something. They get out, one gets sick, one gets a bad cut, they need worming, they need haying... it's an on going battle.

The only people I know that make money have more than 200 head. Anything less than that is just a hobby.
Posted by Phoenix43
Member since Sep 2012
160 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:41 am to
Yes what jimbeam said, either way expect to lose money. Very risky situation to get in to. Good luck!
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:42 am to
I'm not trying to talk you out of it. If you enjoy it, then do it. And it appears you understand this.

Just clarifying
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