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Los Angeles city council bans the use of e-cigarettes

Posted on 3/6/14 at 6:30 am
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 6:30 am
These things sometimes look like real cigarettes.

Of course, the film industry in LA is free to continue to use cigarettes in movies and tv shows for public consumption.

The state owns your health.

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The Los Angeles City Council voted on Tuesday to ban the use of electronic cigarettes, also known as "vaping," from restaurants, bars, nightclubs and other public spaces in the nation's second-largest city.


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Public health experts fear that vaping, which has recently gained popularity among teens and young adults, may serve as a gateway to smoking for the uninitiated.

Critics also point to potential harm posed from second-hand vapor from e-cigarettes, saying too little is known about the effects of the chemicals contained in the cartridges.

"We have an obligation to protect the workforce from the effects of secondhand aerosol exhaled by people who choose to 'vape' on e-cigarettes," said City Council member Mitch O'Farrell, who co-sponsored the proposal.

"We also have a responsibility to protect our youth and everyone else in public places from the carcinogens found in the ultra-fine particles in e-cigarette aerosol," he said.

The proposal was opposed by the makers of e-cigarettes, who pitch their product as a safer alternative to smoking traditional cigarettes and say there is no evidence that second-hand vape smoke is harmful. Advocates of e-cigarettes also say they can help smokers kick the habit.


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Question for the board: How many e-cigarettes would it take to equal the amount of harmful chemicals emitted by a bus owned by the City of Los Angeles?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80101 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 6:31 am to
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Los Angeles city council bans the use of e-cigarettes


Ok, correct me if I'm wrong, but don't these things pretty much eliminate the 2nd hand smoke issue.... Which is the reason that cigarettes were initially being banned from bars and restaurants???
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 6:45 am to
But they look like cigarettes!
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80101 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 6:49 am to
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But they look like cigarettes!


And thats what I'm getting at... Is that the reason? The article mentions the likelihood for young people to use them since they see others doing it.

Really? So now were moving the goal posts


I absolutely cannot stand smoking. I hate being around people who smoke, but am completely find with the vapor cigs.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69896 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 6:53 am to
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Public health experts fear that vaping, which has recently gained popularity among teens and young adults, may serve as a gateway to smoking for the uninitiated. 




Oh for Christ's sake
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70891 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 6:55 am to
Just when I thought liberals couldn't get any dumber.

There is no secondhand smoke from e-cigs. It's water vapor.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69896 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 6:57 am to
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There is no secondhand smoke from e-cigs. It's water vapor.




But they look like cigarettes, kinda. Think of the fricking children
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73424 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 6:58 am to
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There is no secondhand smoke from e-cigs. It's water vapor.
Why do you think it's okay to get your water vapor all in my face while I am trying to eat at restaurant?
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26615 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 6:58 am to
Anyone else feel like starting a petition to force California to secede from the Union? Good gracious. The big earthquake can't come soon enough.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:13 am to
They should have cited water vapor as one of the prime global warming gases while they were discussing it. A device that "looks like something else" is a dangerous thing to display in public.
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:17 am to
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Public health experts fear that vaping, which has recently gained popularity among teens and young adults, may serve as a gateway to smoking for the uninitiated.



Good old nanny state. Big brother forever protecting the people from something that could happen.
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11706 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:21 am to
LA wasn't the first city to do this. E-Cigs are banned from all bars and restaurants in Monroe. They aren't banned from all public spaces, but they are from government property.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84831 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:28 am to
when i was a kid i would cobble together as much change as i could so i could go buy those candy cigarettes down at the candy store in village square
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42520 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:35 am to
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buy those candy cigarettes down at the candy store

I remember those things. - it took some skill to get them to dangle from you lip without dropping off.

Also used the boxes to curl up in our t-shirt sleeve ala Marlon Brando.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:36 am to
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when i was a kid i would cobble together as much change as i could so i could go buy those candy cigarettes down at the candy store in village square


Well this is Exhibit A right here - look how you turned out!
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:59 am to
Oh, it's the same nazi gorillas that hate natural gas vehicles.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32857 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:04 am to
Frisco, TX just passed the same ordinance.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:15 am to
Nothing more than a feel good measure that's well intentioned but severely misinformed and doesn't quite work out in reality.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 8:24 am
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45710 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:25 am to
I don't give a rat's hairy butt what people ingest or smoke into their bodies, but I do not want your vapor at my dinner table.

That is all. Carry on.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32857 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:29 am to
The vapor wouldn't reach your dinner table as it dissipates almost immediately. It also has no smell. You would likely not even know a person was using an e-cigarette near you unless you were looking at the person while they exhaled just as you likely wouldn't know a pot of water was boiling, releasing vapor into the air, unless you were watching the pot or felt the heat.
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