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European Soccer question....Attendance related...

Posted on 3/5/14 at 7:32 pm
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 7:32 pm
European soccer has the biggest stars making the most amount of money. Some of which are at insane levels.

Why does it seem to me that when I watch highlights of the games the stands(attendance) are at best half full????

can anybody offer any insight?
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 7:34 pm to
Oh shite
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

Why does it seem to me that when I watch highlights of the games the stands(attendance) are at best half full????


either...
a) you are stupid
b) you are watching highlights from shitty, second rate leagues that nobody watches

ill give you benefit of the doubt and say it's b
This post was edited on 3/5/14 at 7:36 pm
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 7:50 pm to
just watched a highlight involving the best player in the world. half empty.

disclaimer: i don't follow soccer. well only around Wrold Cup. yes i know bandwagon. i don't care.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 7:51 pm to
I just have to ask...you've been registered since 2009 and yet you don't know there is a soccer board?
Posted by Nonetheless
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 7:54 pm to
gay board
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

i don't follow soccer. well only around Wrold Cup


You don't say
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 7:57 pm to
ohhhh yeah haha. soccer board.

moving along.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 8:06 pm to
Huh? That's really not true. It's one of the mysteries of the game, but there are lots of games with horrendous attendance. Lots of games.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 8:07 pm to
Places like Italy or Spain may have lower attendance because the economy blows
Posted by TheWalrus
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 8:09 pm to
Today was a day of friendlies, equivalent to preseason games. That's why they weren't full today.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 8:12 pm to
Even when the economy was fine, you would see games with crappy attendance.

These are some 2012-13 attendance numbers (I know, the Eurozone was fricked that year).

Germany: 42K
EPL: 36K
Spain: 30K
Mexico: 25K
Italy: 25K
Argentina: 19K
Dutch: 19K
France: 19K
MLS: 19K
Japan: 17K
Brazil: 15K
Turkey: 12K
Russia: 12K
Belgium: 12K
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 8:19 pm to
Germany is one of the few countries with affordable ticket prices
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 8:21 pm to
True. they fill up their stands pretty well.

To answer the OP's question, I am just guessing, but it is probably because this was a meaningless exhibition game with high prices.
Posted by Nashty
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

just watched a highlight involving the best player in the world. half empty.

1. Because it is an international FRIENDLY - preseason...no one gives a shite.
2. I hope you are not talking about the Portugal-Cameroon match. The best player in the world wasn't in that one.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 8:35 pm to
He's been the best player in the world for the past year
Posted by tsmi136
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 8:40 pm to
Stadium-wise, all of the NFL's teams have big stadiums. There are about 5-6 clubs in each of the major European leagues (England, Spain, Germany, Italy) that resemble the NFL. The rest of the clubs have much smaller stadiums.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 8:43 pm to
True, but even in the small stadiums, you'll see lots of empty seats, especially when it's two mid-tier teams playing each other.
Posted by engvol
england
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:25 am to
Yesterday was international friendlies, mainly being played in neutral countries.

Would you go to Germany to watch a Saints preseason game?
It was also midweek, and alot of games on mainland Europe dont finish until nearly 11pm so they aren't exactly helping to bring in the young kids and families.

Overall attendances blow in Italy because their stadiums are HORRIBLE alot are pretty much all concrete, their economy blows and the ultras/hooligans have scared of families. Spain has stupidly late games aswell which doesnt help alot of non Madrid/Barcelona teams.

Theres also a lot more saturation in the markets, its not just one team per city, London for example probably has 8-10 teams in the top 2 tiers of English football, and some teams simply have stadiums too big for that, you arent going to get 20k people watching 2nd rate (at best) standard when theres so many better options, they only have very local support.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:34 am to
quote:

Even when the economy was fine, you would see games with crappy attendance.

These are some 2012-13 attendance numbers (I know, the Eurozone was fricked that year).

Germany: 42K
EPL: 36K
Spain: 30K
Mexico: 25K
Italy: 25K
Argentina: 19K
Dutch: 19K
France: 19K
MLS: 19K
Japan: 17K
Brazil: 15K
Turkey: 12K
Russia: 12K
Belgium: 12K


That's really not a fair comparison because in most countries they have way more teams per capita than we do in the US. London, for example, has like 8 "major" teams and a ton more minor teams. And that's just soccer, nevermind cricket or rugby.
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