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On top of that you have a brand new commissioner who will set the tone for his reign based on how he handles this, his first crisis. Not only did he win the players respect by going nuclear in a way they wanted him to, he probably scared them a little. I know I didn't think he had the power to do what he did. Now everyone knows Silver is not a man to be trifled with.


Exactly what I was thinking. Silver seized the opportunity and asserted his authority. He was mentored by, and is following, perhaps the strongest commissioner in any sport for the last three decades (despite the argument that Stern should have done something about Sterling sooner). Silver didn't want there to be any perception that the throne was weaker. Plus, the situation was so toxic (probably exaggeratedly so) that he had to kick ass.






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. On top of that you have a brand new commissioner who will set the tone for his reign based on how he handles this, his first crisis. Not only did he win the players respect by going nuclear in a way they wanted him to, he probably scared them a little. I know I didn't think he had the power to do what he did. Now everyone knows Silver is not a man to be trifled with.



This is the part that I think a lot of people are understating.






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Social Media amplifies the damage caused by mistakes which in turn amplifies the measures you must take to remedy said mistakes


Thats a narrow view. The right thing was done, perhaps in an inelegant manner. But losing Sterling is good thing.

Now if people drop this and act like "racism is over" since he got banned, that would be a shame.

Of course this being America where the best way to end discrimination is not to discriminate, I have little faith that conversation will take place in large way.






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losing Sterling is good thing.


I'm not saying it's not. Even though I do think the punishment doesn't fit the crime (this feels more like a lifetime achievement award), I actually like the decision the league made. If Sterling were applying for a team today, he'd surely get rejected based on his past.

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Thats a narrow view.


I don't think it is at all. Sterling has done much worse in his past but he still was in the league. Social media completely changes the power dynamic between businesses and their customers.



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Sterling has done much worse in his past but he still was in the league.


I agree 100%. The public shaming he has received should have happened years ago.

But I don't think we can point to social media alone. It was there in 2009 when he settled with the Feds. Yet no outrage.

The point is this type of obvious bigotry is easy to lash out about, while more nefarious and harmful bigotry was left unchecked. I'm not blaming others or absolving myself either. There needs to be a reckoning with that mindset.

Aside: I enjoy engaging in a civil conversation w/ you and others on this, but I don't want to turn this into a race relations post either. Happy to continue to discuss, but I don't want to offend or go deep into a sensitive topic






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It was there in 2009 when he settled with the Feds. Yet no outrage.


I've been running ecommerce sites for nearly 20 years now, and I can tell you that social media was not on many businesses radars in 2009. It hadn't hit a critical mass back then and it's really only been the last 2 years or so that businesses have just started to get into social and engage their customers that way.

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There needs to be a reckoning with that mindset.


It's just human nature. We do what's in our best interest. Do we really expect Chris Paul to take a lesser chance at a championship, a thing he's worked his entire life to achieve, because Sterling is a racist? How many of us work with people or companies we'd never associate with for free? The league needed the full backing of the public to go nuclear, and they didn't get that backing until a technology came along that was able to let everyone have the same conversation at the exact same time and voice their opinion to everyone about it.

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I don't want to turn this into a race relations post either.


Yeah, the discussion on the MSB got out of control quick, all the faux outrage over the faux outrage.



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On top of that you have a brand new commissioner who will set the tone for his reign based on how he handles this, his first crisis. Not only did he win the players respect by going nuclear in a way they wanted him to, he probably scared them a little. I know I didn't think he had the power to do what he did. Now everyone knows Silver is not a man to be trifled with.

While I completely agree with this, I still believe that a large part of his decision was to appease the players.

If Golden State was truly planning to walk off of the court the other night, I'd have to imagine that Silver would have gotten word that something like this would happen if Sterling didn't get the maximum punishment.






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Yeah, the discussion on the MSB got out of control quick, all the faux outrage over the faux outrage.

It's quite funny. The people that are the most angry are the ones complaining about the "faux outrage"






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Yeah. Calling for players/employees to mess around with their livelihood is the ultimate armchair qbing.

Here's something a little lighter. If anyone is a EuroTrip fan, this should give you a laugh.

Scotty (Brooks) Doesn't Know






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I've said a few times how much I love watching the Hawks.

Here are two reads on Atlanta. The first breaks down how Pero Antic changed their identity and just how awful that has been for Indiana.

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Although the Hawks were far from happy to see stalwart starting center Al Horford go down with a season-ending injury way back in December, the sudden promotion of 31-year-old Macedonian Pero Antic into the starting lineup has provided an intriguing and dynamic dimension to the Hawks’ playbook. Although an NBA rookie, the nails-tough Antic is a 13-year veteran of some of Europe’s most unforgiving and raucous leagues, like those in Serbia, Russia, and Greece. Unlike perhaps other European centers (here’s looking at you, Andrea Bargnani), Antic provides stout, physical defense to go alongside a smooth 3-ball stroke.


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The other breaks down Mike Scott's career night in game 5.

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Before Atlanta’s first round series against Indiana, Mike Scott was—at least to casual NBA fans—a nobody. Sure, some people would probably say they had heard his name before. But they would be lying to you if they said they knew a lot about him. And they were probably confusing him with a musician they really didn’t know, either.

But then we found out that he has emoji tattoos, and he’s rightfully become everyone’s playoff hero. How can you not love a man with tattoos of emojis? It’s not possible. Then, last night, he became an on the court hero as well, the living embodiment of the fire emoji, draining five threes—all in the second quarter—to help the Hawks secure a vital Game 5 victory. So how exactly was Young Emoji able to drop five threes in one quarter? Let’s take a closer look in today’s Playoffs Playbook.


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What Indiana is going through with Hibbert being useless in this matchup is exactly why I've never wanted to A) Trade Ryan Anderson for a more traditional center and B) Spend $10 million of more on a center. You really need to have the flexibility to play the multiple ways AD allows you to. I looked at the numbers yesterday and Hibbert has disappeared more in this series than Okafor did for the Hornets vs. the Lakers. The right/wrong key matchup can really kill a team.





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never wanted to A) Trade Ryan Anderson for a more traditional center and B) Spend $10 million of more on a center. You really need to have the flexibility to play the multiple ways AD allows you to.


I'm with you on this one. We do need another good big, but we don't need to overpay for a player who everyone will call a "true" center.






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Agree completely. They need a better big than what they have, but that guy doesn't just solve all the problems we've seen. And the guy Monty is talking about- 2 way big, etc- isn't just hanging out, waiting for a phone call.

It's been fascinating watching the playoffs and looking at some of the teams in the West. I really don't think the Mavs or the Blazers have better talent than the (healthy) Pels. Their defenses were also bad to mediocre (22nd and 16th in DRating). They know who they are and have adapted to overcome their shortcomings.

You never ever see Carlisle consistently playing a guy like Stiemsma because "defense first" "center" or "veteran." No one ever gets a perfect roster; how do you figure out the best form of the guys you have?






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Galactic Inquisitor
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You never ever see Carlisle consistently playing a guy like Stiemsma because "defense first" "center" or "veteran.


You didn't really see Monty do that, either. He did it because we lost 2 of our best bigs to injury early in the year. It's not like he was starting Stiemsma over Kevin Love. If his worst sin is not starting Luke Babbitt or Alexis Ajinca, he's not as terrible as some think.

I certainly don't want to see Stiemsma come back, but we need to keep in mind the context in which he was being played.






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If his worst sin is not starting Luke Babbitt or Alexis Ajinca, he's not as terrible as some think


I get that. And it's not about wins/losses for me. I understand the injury deficit.

To me, the sin is refusing to change when something clearly isn't working. Steamer was a disaster. -9.5 Net Rating, the team was -8 with him on the floor, -1 with him on the bench. The worst numbers of any Pel that had more than a cup of coffee with the team.

Ajinca, Withey, Babbitt, et al aren't likely solving any problems, but they also probably aren't kneecapping the team the way Stiemsma did. Why not give it a shot?

Said it another thread, if Monty loosens up, I have no problem with him sticking around






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Pels are gonna have to find a new Dleague affiliate

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Last season, Iowa had affiliation agreements with five NBA franchises: Chicago, Denver, Washington, New Orleans and Minnesota.


BTW I love this move for the Grizz.






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Saw that. Very smart move by the Grizz. Wish New Orleans would go single affiliation





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Read on CP3 going nova in game 1.

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Like a young Erik Lehnsherr, Paul has absorbed his surroundings and, digging deep into his unique genetic material, countered with the ability to control. But whereas Magneto controls metals, Chris Paul controls everything. The rhythm of the basketball’s thud-thud-thud on the court, the defender sticking to Paul’s arse as he’s trying to stick to his front, the screener, the off ball cutter, the refs, the film crew – everybody in the arena does what Chris Paul wants them to do. It’s not hard to identify a vintage Chris Paul masterpiece, as you scour the game film and incredulously note that every single possession happened to tilt Chris Paul’s way.


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Chris Paul didn’t win last night because he’s the best point guard alive (though he is, and that certainly helped). He won last night because of pure, unadulterated, fire and brimstone hide-the-women-and-children molten rain


Plus, if you're of a certain age, you might get a kick out of NBA Oregon Trail featuring Larry Bird and the Pacers



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Jason Smiht on the show with Mascona today, taking a quick study break to listen, figured I'd share.






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