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re: Hat's off to Putin - he knows what he is doing

Posted on 1/12/15 at 11:46 am to
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 11:46 am to
What about a 8 year old? I am somewhat ashamed....but also proud....to say that my 8 year old son who I taught the game of chess a year ago beats me about one our of every 3 matches. However, and to his credit, he has an uncanny strategic understanding of the game for an 8 year old.
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:08 pm to
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I misread your original statement as "Russian Economy" not "Russian Market". There were actually 5 US companies more valuable than the Russian market as of the end of the year. I haven't kept up since, though.

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Obama has absolutely nothing to do with the drop in oil prices. Nothing. Not one thing!
In fact he's done everything in his power to attain the opposite effect. Outside of sheer luck, he has been owned by Putin at every intersection. Every one. Hell, even with the plummet of oil and the ruble, Putin is controlling the Eastern Ukraine situation. Crimea is off the table.


The drop in oil prices has been the chief contributor to the weakening of Russia's Papier-mâché economy, but external pressures and sanctions have exacerbated the effects. I'll be the last one to say that "Obama took Putin" down or anything else so asinine. But the fact remains that with the exception of bullying weaker nations within Russia's historical sphere of influence, Putin must be regarded as a failure. All the claims that he was flexing this and that, doing what's best for his people, reviving the Russian Empire, and basically having his way with the west (all well documented claims on this board) were and are a joke. The OP was a joke. Putin is a shitty, intemperate leader who rightly calculated that no one was going to blows over an historic part of the old Russian block. And he outplayed us in Syria in a move that ultimately worked out best for our interests.

That's it. He's nothing special.



all of this ...
Posted by stormy
Member since Sep 2014
578 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:56 pm to
Amateur thing to divide, in a subject, that already is divided! Please use
your head, and the right one, before you play politics! Russia is and will be! USA makes life hard for other countries,We have the means to deal! Man up, if you can!
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28590 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:23 am to
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The pressure is building on Vladimir Putin: Russia will be hit by a wave of bankruptcies unless it cuts interest rates very soon, a top financial official warned Monday...

The impact of Western sanctions imposed over Russia's actions in Ukraine has sparked a cash crunch by shutting many companies out of international funding markets.



Russia faces wave of bankruptcies



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The United States is back in the driver’s seat of the global economy after 15 years of watching China and emerging markets take the lead.

The world’s biggest economy will expand by 3.2 percent or more this year, its best performance since at least 2005, as an improving job market leads to stepped-up consumer spending, according to economists at JPMorgan Chase & Co., Deutsche Bank and BNP Paribas...

“The U.S. is again the engine of global growth,” said Allen Sinai, chief executive officer of Decision Economics in New York. “The economy is looking stellar and is in its best shape since the 1990s.”



US back at helm of global economy as employment rises


Putin is really putting it to Obama, isn't he?
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 8:26 am
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35406 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:49 am to
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Putin is really putting it to Obama, isn't he?
Romney warned us!
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:11 am to
Classic thread bump.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28590 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 1:26 pm to
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Russian Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov, speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos, on Friday warned the West against trying to topple President Vladimir Putin and said that Russians are ready to sacrifice their wealth in Putin's support...

Questions have been raised in Russia and abroad whether the price that ordinary Russians are having to pay for the annexation of Crimea is too high.

"When a Russian feels any foreign pressure, he will never give up his leader," Shuvalov said. "Never. We will survive any hardship in the country — eat less food, use less electricity."

Shuvalov's comments triggered pithy remarks on Russia social media including an opposition activist who posted photos of Shuvalov's Moscow, London and Austria homes to illustrate where the deputy prime minister would experience the hardships he described...

Russia's foreign currency reserves shrank by 2 percent last week alone to $379 billion as the Central Bank sold foreign currency in a bid to prop up the ruble.


Top official: Russians will 'eat less' for Putin


Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 1:35 pm to
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Russians will eat less for Putin




Anything for Mother Russia.
Posted by sassyLSU
Lake Charles, La.
Member since May 2011
2080 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 1:36 pm to
I do not get the suggestion that Putin is winning.

His economy is in tatters. inflation through the roof. cost of vodka now in price control.

BLOOMBERG:

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An increasingly toxic mixture of high interest rates, spiraling inflation and plunging oil means Russian banks will probably need a lot more than the $18 billion set aside last year to protect against bad loans.

Russia is facing an “extremely widespread” banking crisis in 2015, and lenders may need to boost provisions for souring debts to $50 billion should oil stay in the mid-$40s, according to Herman Gref, the head of the nation’s biggest lender, OAO Sberbank. That’s after banks increased reserves by 42 percent last year, compared with 27 percent in Turkey and 7.5 percent in Poland in the first 11 months, official figures show.

Seven of Russia’s 10 worst-performing bonds this year are from banks as policy makers raised rates by the most since 1998 to shore up the ruble, whose 47 percent slide over the past 12 months deepened the burden of loan payments for consumers and businesses. With the economy foundering after crude’s decline and sanctions over Ukraine, the ratio of bad debt will double from the third quarter of 2014 to as much as 13 percent by year-end, according to Liza Ermolenko at Capital Economics in London.


& as cwill notes, things are not going as planned in Crimea.

I think its fair to ask who the next Russian leader is going to be.


This post was edited on 1/23/15 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33432 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 1:42 pm to
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He is working in his and and his country's interest


Are you for real? This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48319 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 1:42 pm to
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How could Obama have prevented an invasion of Ukraine?


There was probably not much he could have done considering it was inevitable following the coup in 2014. He messed up by taking a hardline stance from the outset.

There are significant regional differences in Ukraine as result of the post-Soviet formation. While the areas around Kiev supports the new pro-EU/anti-Russian government. The areas in the East and South are very much opposed primarily due to the fact that the area is predominately ethnic-Russian.

These regional differences go back much further than 2014. The President would have been wise to show patience while events were unfolding.
Posted by sassyLSU
Lake Charles, La.
Member since May 2011
2080 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 1:46 pm to
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Russian stock markets Monday crashed almost 10 percent and the ruble plunged to historic lows in value against the dollar and euro, as alarm grew over the potentially disastrous economic consequences of military intervention in Ukraine.

Russia’s central bank hiked its main interest rate in an emergency move to stem capital flight and the losses for the ruble, amid what risks becoming at least Russia’s worst economic crisis since 2009.



this is Putin's legacy. He is cooked. we can only pray that he does not escalate to war in a vain attempt to create nationalistic "do not change horses in the middle of a war" b.s. when you think of Russia, think of lovely women hoping to marry US men. Putin is done. No chance of survival as a political entity unless he goes to war. And war is expensive. will his country support a stupid useless war? Maybe not. those lovely women want fur coats, not war, and they vote.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 2:04 pm to
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Hat's off to Putin - he knows what he is doing



Russia is on the brink of economic collapse yet Putin knows what he's doing?

The unhealthy hatred and obsession some of y'all have for Obama is entertaining yet sad at the same time.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28709 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 2:14 pm to
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Russia is on the brink of economic collapse yet Putin knows what he's doing?
In OP's defense, this post is nearly a year old.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28590 posts
Posted on 1/27/15 at 8:52 am to
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Russia’s foreign-currency credit rating was cut to junk by Standard & Poor’s, putting it below investment grade for the first time in a decade as policy makers struggle to keep economic growth alive amid sanctions and falling oil prices.


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Russian midsize lender SB Bank said on Monday that clients would be unable to withdraw money, the latest casualty of increasing strains on Russia’s banking system.

The bank, Russia’s 80th largest by assets, said on its website that it would no longer give cash to clients, without elaborating. Its press office couldn’t be reached for further comment.

Banks across Russia faced a surge in withdrawals in December as the ruble plunged to record lows and the central bank raised interest rates to steady the currency. The run was a blow to a banking system already weakened by Western sanctions and a souring economic outlook.


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Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 1/27/15 at 9:01 am to
I don't think Russia would be in much better shape today with or without the invasion of the Ukraine. Oil prices have killed their economy.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28590 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:56 am to
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I don't think Russia would be in much better shape today with or without the invasion of the Ukraine. Oil prices have killed their economy.


True. The sanctions just make it even worse.

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"The sanctions exacerbate the problems posed by the oil prices and the ruble," Kliment told CBS MoneyWatch. "The sanctions make it difficult, if not impossible, for Russian companies to raise new capital, to attract new investment."


Russia's economic squeeze keeps getting tighter
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51294 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:05 am to
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Hat's off to Putin


Huh? Russia is in the dumps right now. Their credit has just been downgraded to junk, and the ruble is garbage.

Putin is horrible for Russia.

ETA: Didn't see the date on the OP. I forgot the hard on this board had for Putin last year.
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 10:09 am
Posted by rcocke2
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
1690 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:29 am to
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There are significant regional differences in Ukraine as result of the post-Soviet formation. While the areas around Kiev supports the new pro-EU/anti-Russian government. The areas in the East and South are very much opposed primarily due to the fact that the area is predominately ethnic-Russian.

These regional differences go back much further than 2014. The President would have been wise to show patience while events were unfolding.


Actually, the connection to Ukraine goes back to the very birth of Russia, ~950-1000 AD. "Kievan Rus" it was called. There are hundreds of different ethnic groups living all over the Russian Federation.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:33 am to
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