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Hospitality industry question

Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Boondock544
30A
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:57 pm
So I've been in the restaurant/bar industry since I was 15. I enjoy it. It's fun. I'm a people person and love making people happy in the form of food and drink. Currently I manage a very cool and high end bar and lounge and enjoy it. Lately though I've been thinking of a change. Working nights an weekends have had me miss out on friends and family which I didn't care as much until lately with weddings and events I couldn't make. This may be a shot in the dark but what's a good career move for one with hospitality experience?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27068 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:00 pm to
Hotels?
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:01 pm to
Upper end management, F&B director or catering director at a "good" hotel.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101311 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:01 pm to
Liquor sales?
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:02 pm to
A good career move depends on your goals: if you want nights and weekends off and some schedule flexibility, then you're really talking about a job outside of direct retail. Have you thought about foodservice sales? Selling bar or resto equipment, working for a beverage distributor, or a similar company might keep you in the same industry but will have radically different hours.

I have a brother in the hospitality industry--despite being an equity stakeholder in multiple properties, he still frequently works nights & weekends. That's just the nature of the business....
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31677 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:03 pm to
it's a catch 22 when you get into it. Many people love the atmosphere and the quick money (cash in hand). But it sucks life from you in terms of a set schedule. I know a lot of people who went this route and have become career restaurant/bar people. They regret it.

Unless you go in knowing its temporary, the only way to stay in the parameters of that job and apply the knowledge is owning your own place.

Sales in some capacity might be your best route. Or go work for a liquor/wine rep. you should have some connections there.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58107 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

F&B director or catering director at a "good" hotel.


This. Maybe even a food and beverage buyer.

Some of the F&B hotel positions will require some nights and weekends, but I bet they do it alot less than a restaurant/bar employee.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

Some of the F&B hotel positions will require some nights and weekends, but I bet they do it alot less than a restaurant/bar employee.

Don't take that bet. Hotel f & b is event driven, and events are not a 9 to 5 proposition.

RE: hotel f&b director or catering director, you're going to need some documented business skills...experience matters, but hotels are looking for some formal education. If you haven't had any formal training, get back into school ASAP. An accounting class is a good place to start.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38512 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

I'm a people person


Don't say this during an interview.

quote:

what's a good career move for one with hospitality experience


Senior Retirement Industry.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:15 pm to
UNO used to have a management program, but I was aware if it far too many year ago to know if it still exists since Katrina. Look up Johnson and Wales on the interwebz I think they have a program in Charlotesville NC.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

Senior Retirement Industry.

Now that's a forward looking proposition. Retirement homes usually employ (or consult with) degreed dietitians, plus someone to manage the kitchen. Still, it's 3/5 meals a day, 7 days a week. No holidays when you're talking about a residential facility.

I know several chefs/cooks who moved out of fine dining and into a breakfast-only or bakery situation, simply because the hours are more family friendly.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81185 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

it's a catch 22 when you get into it. Many people love the atmosphere and the quick money (cash in hand). But it sucks life from you in terms of a set schedule. I know a lot of people who went this route and have become career restaurant/bar people. They regret it.



Today was my last official shift in the service industry. Been in it for 4 years, and I'm going to miss the money and the people and everything else.. but I am ready to have my time back.

I'm sure I'll still pick up for extra money, but I am not being scheduled anymore.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58107 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

UNO used to have a management program


They still do. It is an excellent Hotel and Restaurant Mgmt program from what I understand.
Posted by fleaux
section 0
Member since Aug 2012
8741 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:37 pm to
Wine/liquor sales is the answer
Posted by Boondock544
30A
Member since Sep 2009
1863 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 3:47 am to
I've heard the same. Yes F & B director would be nice at a "good" hotel. My F&B director works M-F 8-5pm even during prime weekends only because he has a good team. He knows the bar is in good hands when I'm there and he's not. Tonight I was one bartender down so I had to step in and serve guests and service well from 7-midnight. It was madness but I enjoyed every minute of it. Is there another industry which service industry professionals do well in? Sales & marketing? I do plan on finishing school with a bachelors in business management. I'm just on that 12-14year plan...
Posted by RRH
Member since Apr 2012
19 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 5:49 am to
quote:

So I've been in the restaurant/bar industry since I was 15. I enjoy it. It's fun. I'm a people person and love making people happy in the form of food and drink. Currently I manage a very cool and high end bar and lounge and enjoy it. Lately though I've been thinking of a change. Working nights an weekends have had me miss out on friends and family which I didn't care as much until lately with weddings and events I couldn't make. This may be a shot in the dark but what's a good career move for one with hospitality experience?


Where do you live?
Posted by TypoKnig
Member since Aug 2011
8928 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:56 am to
UNO's Masters Program

Finish up your undergraduate program and then look into this if your in or around New Orleans.
Posted by Boondock544
30A
Member since Sep 2009
1863 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 12:01 pm to
Nola
Posted by RRH
Member since Apr 2012
19 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:33 pm to
Okay.
Looking for someone in Shreveport.
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