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The Guardian: 1981 News Report on the Future of the Internet

Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:06 pm
Posted by joshnorris14
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:06 pm
LINK

Maybe, just maybe some of you will see what we mean when we point out the flaws the crypto-currency network has will be dealt with in the future.
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 11:50 pm
Posted by nelatf
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:32 pm to
Very nice find

Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:41 pm to
Funny that the newspapers were pumped about the internet. They had no idea what kind of giant they would be up against.
Posted by foshizzle
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:45 pm to
A rather telling comment in that video was that this experiment featured everything other than "pictures, ads and the comics".

At the time, those items were what drove sales. A sly comment by the reporter.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:46 pm to
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Funny that the newspapers were pumped about the internet. They had no idea what kind of giant they would be up against.



The part at the end with the newspaper vendor is really great.
Posted by MStant1
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:45 pm to
When people talk about "new" technologies in a manner that demonstrates their inability to get past the technology's current limitations always makes me laugh.

Here is another great article written by Clifford Stoll in 1995. Even in 1995 people had trouble comprehending the possibilities of the internet.

LINK


I find it funny that currently people are saying similar things about digital currencies and 3D printing as they did about the internet.


I don't know that Bitcoin will be the future, but the technology behind Bitcoin most certainly will. What will be interesting to see is if Bitcoin and other digital Currencies will be able to survive when JP Morgan and eventually other banks implement their own payment networks utilizing the same type of technology. Additionally, it will be interesting to see if these exchanges will be able to get over the regulatory hurdles that will most certainly be increasing over the next year or two.
Posted by C
Houston
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:51 pm to
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3D printing


has been around for a long time. When we discover nanobots we will have a revolution. 3D printing is like flying cars to me. They just aren't that big of a deal.

ETA: 3D printing is a big deal in that it enables people to manufacture things, but I don't think it will be cheaper than mass production. Thus not really affecting the daily person.
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 12:52 pm
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:10 pm to
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ETA: 3D printing is a big deal in that it enables people to manufacture things, but I don't think it will be cheaper than mass production. Thus not really affecting the daily person.


Instant gratification in the home is a perk if cost is equivalent.

Need a spatula? Go print it and use it to cook dinner 5 minutes later.
Posted by MStant1
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:18 pm to
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has been around for a long time. When we discover nanobots we will have a revolution. 3D printing is like flying cars to me. They just aren't that big of a deal.



I'm aware the basics of 3D printing has been around for awhile, but technology is only now starting to catch up with the process. Like Lynx said the ability to print a spatula, a chair, a table, etc. are ultimately what will make 3D printing something that will a very popular technology in every home in the next 10-20 years. I would imagine that ultimately instead of going to (or ordering from) IKEA or Target for furniture you will be able to order and print the same parts at home for you to assembly yourself. Or if you need a specific piece to replace you just print it. The possibilities are quite endless.

Your comment(s) is/are almost verbatim what people said about computers. Not terribly long ago no one could imagine that nearly every home would have a computer (much less multiple computers). Keep in mind computers and the internet both were multi-decades old before they were mainstream.
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 1:20 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:30 pm to
In your opinion what will be the main attraction of 3D printing for most consumers, convenience or cost savings?
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:34 pm to
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the ability to print a spatula, a chair, a table, etc. are ultimately what will make 3D printing something that will a very popular technology in every home in the next 10-20 years


If I ever sit down on a 3d printed chair, at a 3d printed table, eating a burger from a 3d printed spatuala, I'll eat my 3d printed shorts.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by MStant1
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
4529 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:44 pm to
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In your opinion what will be the main attraction of 3D printing for most consumers, convenience or cost savings?



Convenience will probably be the biggest driving factor I would imagine for regular consumers. I'm not sure if cost will ever really be the determining factor. Similar to how e-books and digital music are really no cheaper than their physical counterparts, but their convenience factor is the main allure. I think 3D printing will just merely be a natural extension to online shopping.

For manufacturing I think cost savings may be the driving factor.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:45 pm to
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If I ever sit down on a 3d printed chair, at a 3d printed table, eating a burger from a 3d printed spatuala, I'll eat my 3d printed shorts.

This has all been done. Well, the shorts might need a little more refinement.
Posted by MStant1
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
4529 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:47 pm to
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If I ever sit down on a 3d printed chair, at a 3d printed table, eating a burger from a 3d printed spatuala, I'll eat my 3d printed shorts.





Did you see the need for a tablet prior to 2009? Were you a fan of smart phones or even see the need for smart phones prior to 2005-2007? Internet prior to the mid 90's? Computer prior to the 80's?

Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:53 pm to
Translating computer world to physical world isn't as easy. Even today in manufacturing, materials are not all made from the same stock. Even plastics vary by many factors. I don't think a single 3d machine can replicate those variables which means you need multiple stocks. And then you have to piece everything together. Manufacturers have assembly lines with little Asian women with small skilled fingers putting these things together. I just don't see it happening.
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:56 pm to
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but the technology behind Bitcoin most certainly will.


someone gets it!



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What will be interesting to see is if Bitcoin and other digital Currencies will be able to survive when JP Morgan and eventually other banks implement their own payment networks utilizing the same type of technology.


This topic was brought up by Lawsky or one of his lackeys in the NYDFS hearings last week, and the entrepreneurs on the panel basically responded, "No one is going to build anything on top of a JPMorgan coin."

They then went into the concept that the most attractive feature of bitcoin for entrepreneurs is its decenratlized nature and that the rules are clearly understood by everyone and can be changed by no one.
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 1:57 pm
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:58 pm to
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can be changed by no one.


I thought majority ruled?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:59 pm to
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Were you a fan of smart phones or even see the need for smart phones prior to 2005-2007? Internet prior to the mid 90's? Computer prior to the 80's?
To me the difference between those innovations and 3D printing is that as soon as those new products became known I could immediately see how I would benefit from owning them.

For me 3D printing doesn't hold out the same level of benefits for me personally. Would I print out plastic forks and spoons? Or make plastic furniture? I don't think so.
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:02 pm to
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I thought majority ruled?



It's based on consensus.

But essentially it requires getting followers. I can go change "bitcoin" right now, but it won't actually be bitcoin. It'll be a hard fork. And if no one else joins my new network, then nothing really changed.
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