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My first attempt at Gumbo (w/ pics)

Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:30 am
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:30 am
Please don't judge me too harshly. I don't have a ton of pics since I was really zoned in on the process. My wife said I spent more time with the gumbo than I do with my kids on a daily basis.

Used some rotisserie to make stock a few days earlier. Oven roasted some bone-in chicken thighs.



Used butter for my roux. Got it nice and dark. Looked much darker in person, like a dark chocolate.



added veggies and sautéed.



added slightly warm stock to hot roux, spoonfuls at a time to keep it incorporated. did fine.



added some raw chicken tenders cut up and let them cook for a while. added the chicken thighs after deboning. I added some garlic and andouille the last 45 minutes or so. here it is in the bowl.



and the spoon shot:



pictures showed a lot more grease than there actually were. i had already skimmed a good bit. It sat for another 90 minutes cooling and I was able to skim maybe a small ladle's worth of additional grease. It tasted good though, and that's all that matters to me.

ETA: I think I might have grabbed my bowl's worth prior to skimming since I wanted to eat. I can't remember.
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 11:31 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:31 am to
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pictures showed a lot more grease than there actually were.


Disagree. It looks solid, especially for a first attempt at the dish.
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:34 am to
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Disagree. It looks solid, especially for a first attempt at the dish.

i've done a ton of reading, especially here about gumbos. One of the things I was able to do to eliminate a ton of grease was making the stock before hand. When I took it out of the fridge, I was able to skim some of the grease off of the stock. That helped a ton.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:35 am to
Looks good for a first attempt. I would eat it.

Posted by HeadyMurphey
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:36 am to
Looks good. Mine is normally a little darker though. And I normally add my roux to the stock to control thickness. You may end up having to add water if you do it the other way around.
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 11:38 am
Posted by Motorboat
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:39 am to
Looks good for a first attempt. I'd ditch the tenders and do a whole hen plus thighs
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:40 am to
Mine was pretty dark. The only picture that comes close to showing the real darkness is the one after I added the veggies. all of the other pictures were under yellow lights and look much different than in person.
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:41 am to
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I'd ditch the tenders and do a whole hen plus thighs
i added the tenders late enough that they were still really tender. but, i'll probably just do all thighs next time. they were so delicious.
Posted by BayouBlitz
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:49 am to
Better than my first attempt for sure.

Looks a little runny for my tastes, and I add the garlic after the Trinity. I like to cook my gumbo down to where you don't see celery, peppers, okra, etc. I do this by dicing up pretty fine and letting simmer for an hour plus.

The big question is...how did it taste? And would you do anything differrent?

Don't tell Gris Gris, but I frequently use rotisserie chicken and store bought chicken stock.
Posted by OTIS2
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:50 am to
Great job.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:51 am to
quote:

It looks solid, especially for a first attempt at the dish.


This. The OP's first attempt looks much better than mine. I was so scared of burning the roux that I wound up with a white gumbo.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 12:10 pm to
Looks good. I think if you add cold liquid to hot roux it comes out smooth, but you had no trouble with the way you did it. I like the chicken to cook in my gumbo, so I use raw thighs and reserved stock from some other time or a good boxed stock.

Looks nice, not too greasy IMO.
Posted by LloydChristmas
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 12:12 pm to
looks good, IWEI
Posted by mouton
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Looks a little runny for my tastes,


I hear this a lot on this board and I guess its a matter of personal preference. In my opinion the best gumbos are very thin unless they contain okra. A thicker gumbo is usually the result of a roux that is not really dark or adding so much roux that it is a bit overpowing. To each his own though.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 12:47 pm to


Very nice looking job for your first attempt!!! Mine is darker than that, but I also know that the camera doesn't always catch the color just right. Looks like it has just enough body to me and isn't runny in my opinion.

It doesn't look greasy or oily to me.

I would caution a bit on cooking raw chicken in the gumbo itself. If you notice on the stock, sometimes, you'll get that foamy stuff on top that you remove from a stock. Could happen with your gumbo if you cook too much raw directly in it. I cut the meats smaller. They're too large for my taste, but if you're the only one eating it and you take honker bites of food at once, it works for you.

I think you did a terrific job and if you enjoyed the flavor, then it was a home run for you.

BB, stop trying to make trouble with the rotisserie chicken business. I highly recommend Sam's chickens as long as you don't get their seasoning in the water. On occasion, I've gotten an off putting flavor from their chickens.

I also make smoked chicken and smoked turkey gumbo or turkey gumbo with roasted turkey quite often. Same thing as using a decent rotisserie chicken in my mind. And, I sometimes use grocery stocks/bases instead of water when I'm not making a stock from scratch, plus I make 5 gallons of gumbo at a time often and rarely do I have enough stock for that. I shore it up with a stock base or something of that nature. I'll usually roast the bones of whatever cooked meat I'm using or, at the very least, I simmer them not roasted in the liquid I'm using for the gumbo.

My rules for MY gumbo are:

I make my own roux and it's very dark.
I do not use frozen trinity.
No okra.
No tomatoes.
No bay, oregano or other strange seasonings. (Mine is packed with flavor and doesn't need it. And, I love the flavors of the dark roux with the veggies and the meats.)
I don't cook the file' IN the gumbo. I let folks add that themselves.
Always have extra green onions for garnishing.
Extra sausage/andouille because I like it that way.
No whole pieces of chicken and I cut the chicken and the sausage into bite size pieces so I don't look like a chipmunk or a squirrel storing acorns in my cheeks trying to eat a big old honker hunk of meat. And, I shouldn't have to "cut" meat in my bowl or worry with bones in my bowl. I like to have meat, rice and liquid on my gumbo spoon for each each perfect bite.

Again, those are MY rules. People has their own preferences.

That's pretty much it. If you like yours another way, geaux for it.
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 12:49 pm
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 2:19 pm to
thanks for the kind words, Gris Gris. The chicken pieces are very small. That's a small spoon with chicken, andouille, rice and liquid. I assure you they were small, even if they look big.

I basically have the same requirements that you listed, no frozen veggies, no tomatoes, okra, etc. i also have a ton of andouille in there because i like it more than chicken. The only thing I don't really like is green onions. But, if I made one for a ton of people, I'd offer it with the file on the side.

As we were cooking it, my wife was saying how it would be the only time we make it. I guess there was a lot that goes into it. Once we were done and eating it, she was saying she's looking forward to making it again.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

That's a small spoon with chicken, andouille, rice and liquid. I assure you they were small, even if they look big.


Now, that I look again at the spoon, I see you have the perfect bite! I think the chicken just looked large in the pic.

quote:

i also have a ton of andouille in there because i like it more than chicken.


Same here. I do love turkey, but when it comes to the chicken, I'd be happy with andouille gumbo with a little chicken.

quote:

The only thing I don't really like is green onions. But, if I made one for a ton of people, I'd offer it with the file on the side.


I have admitted to my green onion addiction on many occasions. I put a ton in the gumbo and then add fresh to the bowl. Definitely have some fresh chopped for the garnish when you make this again and serve your many new fans!

quote:

As we were cooking it, my wife was saying how it would be the only time we make it. I guess there was a lot that goes into it. Once we were done and eating it, she was saying she's looking forward to making it again.



It's so worth the effort when the result tastes good. Once you make it a few times, you'll get into a schedule of events so to speak and make enough to freeze. Many times, I prepare the chicken, andouille and veggies the day before and then I put it all together the next day. Sometimes, I even make the roux ahead of time. Easy to do with an oven roux especially. I just turn off the oven and leave it overnight. Heat it back up and then add the trinity and go from there. Lots of ways to do it and it goes faster when you get into a groove. Using smoked meats cuts time as well as you don't have to cook them. I'm so glad you finally made it. I know you were looking into it and it all paid off. I think this is the best first effort I've seen on this board. Tell the wife congrats also for her part!
Posted by rutiger
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

Posted by Message Motorboat My first attempt at Gumbo (w/ pics) Looks good for a first attempt. I'd ditch the tenders and do a whole hen plus thighs


I agree, thats what i do as well.

I also like to brown my andouille.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 2:43 pm to
And, once you get this down, take a look at Paul Prudhomme's recipe on Labelle Cuisine and make it with fried skinless chicken. Then, use the frying oil for the roux. That takes the flavor to a whole new level.
Posted by BayouBlitz
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 3:56 pm to
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BB, stop trying to make trouble with the rotisserie chicken business

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No okra.

quote:

No bay, oregano or other strange seasonings



To the OPs credit, I think the Trinity mixed with the roux looks good. Just added a little too much stock for my tastes.
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