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Oven Roux

Posted on 1/29/14 at 4:19 pm
Posted by Lambdatiger1989
NOLA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/29/14 at 4:19 pm
I've been wanting to try this for a while. 1 cup flour 400 degree oven 45 minutes. Stirred every 10 min. Wasn't quite the color I wanted so I added another 5 min. Gumbo still cooking. Looks right? Tastes ok. It was a helluva lot easier than standing over the stove. Anyone else have success with this?
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
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Posted on 1/29/14 at 4:22 pm to
I've posted about it a number of times. I haven't done it as high as 400, but it's fine at 375. Takes a lot longer, but I get the roux very dark with no burn. You just have to leave it in there and let it go dark. I've done really large rouxs in the oven and chopped everything while it's doing its thing. I've run errands while it was cooking as well. It's magical.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37760 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 4:23 pm to
I get the roux started then put it in the oven on 375. Turn it over about every 30-40 minutes. No need to do it every 10. Works great
This post was edited on 1/29/14 at 4:24 pm
Posted by Lambdatiger1989
NOLA
Member since Jan 2012
2290 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 4:27 pm to
What are the consequences of not using the oil?
Posted by Deke
Palm Coast, Florida
Member since Jan 2004
1216 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 4:33 pm to
Does work great, but I set the oven on 350
Posted by Oenophile Brah
The Edge of Sanity
Member since Jan 2013
7540 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 4:36 pm to
This is how the glorious Gumbo YaYa at Mr. B's is crafted.

Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
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47385 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

What are the consequences of not using the oil?


I've never made one without the oil, but I'm not sure how dark you can get the flour without perhaps scorching it if you like a dark roux. The jars in the store of flour only aren't terribly dark. I would think you would have to stir a dry roux more often, as well.

The last time I made a large roux (with oil), I got caught up in a long phone conversation and forgot about it. It still browned evenly with very little stirring. A dry roux probably needs more stirring to keep the browning even.
Posted by tracytiger
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2009
3631 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 5:24 pm to
I tried an oven roux Christmas Eve. It was great! I stirred every 30 mins for 1 1/2 hours. It still wasn't dark enough so I checked and stirred every 10 mins until it was dark enough.
Posted by LSU Tiger Bob
South
Member since Sep 2011
3002 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

This is how the glorious Gumbo YaYa at Mr. B's is crafted.



You mean that thin, brown water with weenies they pass off as gumbo?
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14295 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 8:09 pm to
yeah, had that Gumbo at Mr. Bs and it tasted burnt to me. So once this roux is made do you just mix it in with stock? Whats the next step?
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58139 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 8:12 pm to
quote:


You mean that thin, brown water with weenies they pass off as gumbo?


You've never been there or the chef was on crack if you think their gumbo was thin brown water.
Posted by LSU Tiger Bob
South
Member since Sep 2011
3002 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

You've never been there or the chef was on crack if you think their gumbo was thin brown water.




Bull shite! Been enough times over many years to know their (famous???) gumbo is a thin, tasteless, brown water concoction with too much rice ceremoniously dumped in. They have somewhat of a local following, but are mostly a tourist trap. Their duck spring rolls are really good, as are the pork and lamb chop. Have no knowledge of the head cook being a crack head.
Posted by BooDreaux
Orlandeaux
Member since Sep 2011
3300 posts
Posted on 1/30/14 at 8:13 am to
Did 10 cups of flour in oven(5 cups per pan) at 375 degrees with no oil.

Probably took an hour and half to get very dark.

Was competing in a gumbo competition cooking outside and wasn't sure about the weather and blowing wind for getting the roux right the conventional way. Was making 9-10 gallons of seafood gumbo.

This worked awesome, the key being after sauteing the trinity, I added the stock and brought to a rolling boil, then added the browned flour a cup at a time and stirred like hell to blend in before adding another cup. Color was spot on and texture was perfect. You can do a bunch in advance and freeze in ziplocs. Just make sure you take out and let come to room temp before using.

Took second place, lost by one vote to a chef from Houma.



This post was edited on 1/30/14 at 8:15 am
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 1/30/14 at 9:26 am to
Roux with no oil?

How is that even a roux?

Isn't it just cooked flour?

Not saying it's not good. I just don't get it.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
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47385 posts
Posted on 1/30/14 at 10:15 am to
People refer to browned flour as a dry roux.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 1/30/14 at 10:29 am to
quote:

People refer to browned flour as a dry roux.


Well dang, don't let that secret out or people will stop thinking Louisiana food is something magical!
Posted by HotMama79
Member since Sep 2012
288 posts
Posted on 1/30/14 at 10:43 am to
This is the only way I make roux - and it turns out fine every time. Be sure to stir the flour around - even a little speck of burned flour will ruin the roux (this has only happened once to mine). I got this recipe from a Holly Clegg "light" cookbook.
Posted by Oenophile Brah
The Edge of Sanity
Member since Jan 2013
7540 posts
Posted on 1/30/14 at 10:48 am to
I'll completely disregard the thin, brown water comment. It's patently false.

quote:

with weenies

I have no idea what you mean with this?

Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7515 posts
Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:03 am to
I just don't get this. A traditional roux is just not that fricken difficult. Have all your vegetables and meats chopped and ready to dump in before you start anything else. Put your oil in the pot and let it heat to 350 before you add your flour. Add flour and stir for 15 minutes. When it hits the color you want, throw the veg in to stop it from getting too dark. This seems like it's immensely less trouble than tending to flour in an oven for an hour and a half.

If you're doing a huge batch and storing it in the freezer, just buy Savioe's or Kary's. It's the same thing... A shortcut that will be slighty less good than a fresh traditional roux.
Posted by HotMama79
Member since Sep 2012
288 posts
Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:17 am to
Well it is a bit more healthy without the oil.
And not to argue, but it tastes just fine.
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