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Newspaper conglomerate considers building massive database of gun owners

Posted on 1/24/14 at 8:52 am
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 8:52 am
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A U.S. newspaper conglomerate has considered building state-by-state databases of people who have the right to carry concealed firearms.

Civitas Media, which owns 88 newspapers in 12 states and more than 100 total publications, is planning to use public records requests to build their databases, according to an internal Civitas email obtained by the Buckeye Firearms Association in Ohio.

Civitas director of content Jim Lawitz emailed content directors, managers, and producers in a January 19 email, saying that exploring the “explosion” of conceal and carry permits in the U.S. will be one of the company’s short-term objectives.


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“We are launching two enterprise projects across our newsrooms this month. The first will deal with the creeping influence of heroin in our communities. The deadly drug has quietly taken over, reaching across all age groups and eclipsing meth as the recreational drug of choice,” Lawitz began.

“The second project examines the explosion of ‘conceal and carry’ gun permits across the U.S. Through public records act requests, we will attempt to build state-by-state databases that list those who have the right to carry a concealed weapon,” Lawitz wrote in the email.

When reached for comment by Buckeye Firearms Association, Lawitz said the news conglomerate currently has no plans to publish the database.

“We do not typically publicly comment on internal propriety communication. However, we have no plans to publish any names on any lists. Further, we are open to discuss any published reports,” Lawitz said.


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Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 8:55 am to
Harassing law abiding citizens and giving criminals a target list of places and innocent people to steal guns from.

Brilliant.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52765 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 8:56 am to
and people like Rex say the media isn't in the tank for the left.

So let's revisit.

We have jailing of political opponents, and the everlasting push to limit, restrict, and eventually ban the private citizens ownership of arms.







Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:01 am to
I'll take a wild guess and suppose this conglomerate is also for a woman making her own decisions about her body. If so, then why do they care if a woman wants to shoot up heroin to herself? I don't understand the hypocrisy.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:02 am to
You contributed absolutely nothing to the topic of this thread.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:06 am to
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The first will deal with the creeping influence of heroin in our communities.


I was just responding to the conglomerate's priorities of importance to their cause.

Sorry for not playing right.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:07 am to
quote:

I'll take a wild guess and suppose this conglomerate is also for a woman making her own decisions about her body. If so, then why do they care if a woman wants to shoot up heroin to herself? I don't understand the hypocrisy.




We don't need any bullshite in a thread like this.
Posted by MoombaVol
Member since Oct 2013
297 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:08 am to
What a fricking idiot
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:10 am to
quote:

we will attempt to build state-by-state databases that list those who have the right to carry a concealed weapon,”
Since the government already has the info anyway, what is the problem?

It's fine by me if a newspaper wants to know that I have a CC permit. They can put my name on their front page for all I care.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:13 am to
You forgot some



...for one.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:15 am to
quote:

Since the government already has the info anyway, what is the problem?

It's fine by me if a newspaper wants to know that I have a CC permit. They can put my name on their front page for all I care.


There was a paper in NYC that tried something like this and it backfired immensely on them. The backlash on them was huge. It led to NY banning papers from doing something like this again in the future.

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This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 9:19 am
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:18 am to
Heroin isn't a mystery, it is because of Oxy restrictions.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:19 am to
Also, they should've waited until state legislative sessions were over. I predict quick bills to restrict the info.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:21 am to
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Since the government already has the info anyway, what is the problem?


Local Sheriff's are the only ones who know in Alabama. The intent of this is to cause uneasiness and expose gun owners to those who are against them having them. It's an attempt to publicly shame. If this is ok, then it should be ok for them to publish how everyone votes. It'd be the same thing.

quote:

It's fine by me if a newspaper wants to know that I have a CC permit. They can put my name on their front page for all I care


Feel free to write your local paper and inform them you carry then. Not everyone wishes to have their name in the paper.
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:22 am to
A CCW DB? Great idea. I think we also need DBs for all gays, lesbians, women who've had abortions, people with AIDS, IV drug users, and so on. I'd also like errbody's medical records while I'm at it.

I'll volunteer to maintain it, and I don't have any current plans to publish it if it were to come into being. I just want to do some important statistical studies and what not.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:25 am to
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I think we also need DBs for all gays, lesbians, women who've had abortions, people with AIDS, IV drug users, and so on.

There's a difference between a permit issued by the government and a procedure performed by a doctor.

I'll let you guess what it is.
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:27 am to
quote:

I'll let you guess what it is.


What difference does it make? I don't have any current plans to publish the data, and I need it for some statistical studies.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:29 am to
There's also a difference in a Constiutional Right, and an elective surgery.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:30 am to
If this isn't illegal, why not? Snowden can steal the names and sell them.

Doesn't this already exist and why?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:31 am to
quote:

It's an attempt to publicly shame.
I guess I don't feel shamed by it. Why would anyone be ashamed? I'm damn proud of it and I'll tell everyone I know I have one if they are interested.

Maybe anyone who feels ashamed for having a CC permit should not have one.
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