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re: Newspaper conglomerate considers building massive database of gun owners
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:33 am to LSURussian
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:33 am to LSURussian
Maybe they should also list people who own diamond rings, a certain amount of gold, 55" TV's as well.
What purpose does it serve to harass citizen's who are complying with the law? What public good is there in what they want to accomplish?
What purpose does it serve to harass citizen's who are complying with the law? What public good is there in what they want to accomplish?
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:34 am to LSURussian
I don't see why it wouldn't be on public record who has conceal carry. and yes if you can carry in one state, it doesn't mean you carry in another. Loom, at the truck driver story.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:36 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
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and yes if you can carry in one state, it doesn't mean you carry in another
It also doesn't mean you can't carry in other states. Alabama has Gun Reciprocity Law's that allow CC carry in their states, with 25 other states.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:39 am to Alahunter
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What public good is there in what they want to accomplish?
Well, if I had a DB on all womeneses who had abortions, and I conducted my statistical studies, it's possible I might find some important statistic data on which women should be targeted for further education. It would be a furtherance of Bill Clinton's goal of making abortion "safe, legal, and rare."
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:40 am to son of arlo
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:43 am to Alahunter
Same with an AIDS DB. If I only saved one person from getting AIDS, it would be worth it, right?
I currently wouldn't have any plans to publish the data, and would try very hard to safeguard it.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:45 am to Alahunter
quote:You've gone Full Metal Retard.....
Maybe they should also list people who own diamond rings, a certain amount of gold, 55" TV's as well.
quote:How are they being harassed? This is the part I don't understand about your complaining.
What purpose does it serve to harass citizen's who are complying with the law?
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:45 am to WildTchoupitoulas
What, exactly, is the purpose? CCs don't commit violent crimes. Statistically, they're one of the safest demographics in the country.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:46 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
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and yes if you can carry in one state, it doesn't mean you carry in another.
JEAUXBLEAUX, why are so you anti gun facts? You are like 0 for 200 on this board, even if you were guessing one would think every now and then you would be accurate with a gun statement, but alias, no...
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:47 am to son of arlo
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What difference does it make?
Seriously?
One is an agreement with the state, the other is private.
I'm pretty sure you cannot use the FOIA to obtain information about medical procedures performed on private citizens. You know, the whole doctor/patient confidentiality and all.
Why be obtuse? If you don't want your information to be public, don't volunteer it to the government - ie, don't go putting your name on government lists. The last I checked, you don't need to be on a government register to have medical procedures done - elective or not.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:49 am to LSURussian
So tell me, what is the purpose of it? What good does it serve? Of what public interest would it represent?
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:50 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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I'm pretty sure you cannot use the FOIA to obtain information about medical procedures performed on private citizens. You know, the whole doctor/patient confidentiality and all.
Guess who is wanting to infringe on that, as well, in the name of gun protections and safety?
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:54 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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One is an agreement with the state, the other is private.
It's only an "agreement" with the state because the state has criminalized the action without a permit. If the state criminalized peaceful assemblies without a permit, would it be free game to publish all permits requested?
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:56 am to Alahunter
quote:So you think newspapers are in business to only serve the public interest? Do they get a license requiring that? In that case, you've got a lot to learn about the media.
What good does it serve? Of what public interest would it represent?
You still have not answered my question, how is it harassment?
Methinks you're paranoid.
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 9:57 am
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:57 am to Alahunter
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Guess who is wanting to infringe on that, as well, in the name of gun protections and safety?
I bet a lot of people are. But that is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
I heard an interview the other day where the gentleman was saying that the level of security os up to the People. If the People want security to provide zero threat from terrorists, we will, by definition, have a police state. We cannot have both privacy and security. Guess who wants to expand government provided security.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:57 am to LSURussian
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How are they being harassed? This is the part I don't understand about your complaining.
You are missing the chilling effect on lawful gun ownership that is at the center of these attempts to publish databases
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:57 am to BugAC
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I didn't know Liam Neeson was a dictator.
I didn't know Liam Neeson was a dictator.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:58 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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I'm pretty sure you cannot use the FOIA to obtain information about medical procedures performed on private citizens.
No you can't unless the patient authorizes it. I think that's a good thing essentially, but maybe someone could make a DB somewhere and come up with some meaningful trends, indicators, you know... stuff like that.
Again, what difference would it make if I promise I don't have any current plans to release the data to anyone?
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don't go putting your name on government lists.
IOW, don't apply for a CCW? Got it.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:59 am to LSURussian
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It's fine by me if a newspaper wants to know that I have a CC permit. They can put my name on their front page for all I care.
So then why do you post anonymously on a message board?
Methinks you are paranoid
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:59 am to Rantavious
quote:And I think you are missing how little most gun owners who have a CC permit give a shite about who knows they carry.
You are missing the chilling effect on lawful gun ownership that is at the center of these attempts to publish databases
I sure as hell don't care who knows I have one. It's not chilling to me at all.
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