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Mike Detiller made some great points...
Posted on 1/3/14 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 1/3/14 at 7:56 pm
1. He said that losing a guy like Gerald Willis is much, much bigger than losing a Wr or CB. He said you can always find skill guys, but athletic, fast big men are very rare. Mike also said that Willis was the biggest surprise of all the prospects who left because Muschamp will likely be gone after next season.
2. Mike also said all the OL need work on their pass blocking. He said this in reference to Trai Turner exiting for the NFL. As athletic as LSUs OL are especially Hawkins we should have as much trouble as we do with pass blocking.
3. Detiller said that more and more juniors will leave early because of the new NFL deal. Lower level draftees are making much more. For example, Mike Ford made $400,000 this season which is only $100,000 less than Bennie Logan made as a third round pick. LSU will continue to see guys leave early. He also stated that Hill would likely be a 3rd round pick and that the first RB would like get picked in the 2nd round. (IMO, there is always a RB that slips into the bottom of the 1st round)
4. Ed Orgeron would listen to any offer made by LSU but people expecting him to come in as the recruiting coordinator are very mistaken. It would likely be a longshot to get Ed.
5. Anthony Jennings has to work on his foot work. That is why his passes were floating. Also, he was probably very nervous making his first start. Iowa showed him a lot of coverages he hasn't seen before. Mike made the comparison to AJ McCarron first season as a starter. AJ did the very same thing for most of that season until the last 3 games where the light seemed to come on.
6. Harris could really push Jennings. Mike is very impressed with Harris arm strength and thinks there will be a real battle in the spring. (I have to wonder if both Rivers and Retting get passed up by Harris, if we will enter the 2014 season with only two QBs.)
2. Mike also said all the OL need work on their pass blocking. He said this in reference to Trai Turner exiting for the NFL. As athletic as LSUs OL are especially Hawkins we should have as much trouble as we do with pass blocking.
3. Detiller said that more and more juniors will leave early because of the new NFL deal. Lower level draftees are making much more. For example, Mike Ford made $400,000 this season which is only $100,000 less than Bennie Logan made as a third round pick. LSU will continue to see guys leave early. He also stated that Hill would likely be a 3rd round pick and that the first RB would like get picked in the 2nd round. (IMO, there is always a RB that slips into the bottom of the 1st round)
4. Ed Orgeron would listen to any offer made by LSU but people expecting him to come in as the recruiting coordinator are very mistaken. It would likely be a longshot to get Ed.
5. Anthony Jennings has to work on his foot work. That is why his passes were floating. Also, he was probably very nervous making his first start. Iowa showed him a lot of coverages he hasn't seen before. Mike made the comparison to AJ McCarron first season as a starter. AJ did the very same thing for most of that season until the last 3 games where the light seemed to come on.
6. Harris could really push Jennings. Mike is very impressed with Harris arm strength and thinks there will be a real battle in the spring. (I have to wonder if both Rivers and Retting get passed up by Harris, if we will enter the 2014 season with only two QBs.)
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 7:57 pm to toughcrittercrumb
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1. He said that losing a guy like Gerald Willis is much, much bigger than losing a Wr or CB. He said you can always find skill guys, but athletic, fast big men are very rare. Mike also said that Willis was the biggest surprise of all the prospects who left because Muschamp will likely be gone after next season.
Word.
Personally, I think our biggest loss was Cam Robinson.
:ducking:
Posted on 1/3/14 at 7:59 pm to SabiDojo
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biggest
Oh I see it. What you did there. I do see it.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:01 pm to SabiDojo
At least CRob made his decision early.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:01 pm to geauxjo
As much as people may not want to hear it: GW is very eligible for a flip if the coaching staff can speak some wisdom into his ear. I mean he was still undecided minutes before the game so it's not out of reach IMO
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:01 pm to SabiDojo
GW > CRob by a mile. CRob is overrated. Really good, but not top 10 overall.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:03 pm to ell_13
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GW > CRob by a mile. CRob is overrated. Really good, but not top 10 overall.
GW was my personal favorite in this draft class, and I hate that we have lost out on him (for now).
As to Cam being overrated, maybe. The dude just looks incredible.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:04 pm to toughcrittercrumb
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5. Anthony Jennings has to work on his foot work.
I agree with this. Even on the plays where he had 5-6 seconds in the pocket, his feet just seemed to be unsettled.
Jennings' biggest asset at the moment is his perceived calmness in the huddle/pocket/course of play.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:05 pm to SabiDojo
I'm basing my judgment on when they went up against each other at the beginning of this season. GW dominated CRob, especially in the 4th quarter
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:08 pm to Rabid Tiger
I pay no attention to a guy like Detillier. I could have stated the same opinions and thoughts and I have a pharmacy degree. I can read a few papers and scroll through tigerdroppings and say the same damn thing. No substance whatsoever.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:08 pm to toughcrittercrumb
Yes...we all know Stud sucks and is overpaid. I'm shocked he's still on our staff to this day.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:13 pm to toughcrittercrumb
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Detiller said that more and more juniors will leave early because of the new NFL deal. Lower level draftees are making much more. For example, Mike Ford made $400,000 this season which is only $100,000 less than Bennie Logan made as a third round pick.
Wrong. They had the same salary ($405k). However, Logan received an approx. $685k signing bonus, which is prorated over 4 years for salary cap purposes, but he made the money. He essentially will make $171k more a year due to the bonus, which is about 43% more.
I'm sure it would be tempting to leave college before I graduated for a job making $100k, but I would personally prefer staying, getting my degree and trying to harder to make $143k the following year. Of course it is not guaranteed that I will make more, but I won't make any less, so the added plus is the degree.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:15 pm to toughcrittercrumb
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3. Detiller said that more and more juniors will leave early because of the new NFL deal. Lower level draftees are making much more. For example, Mike Ford made $400,000 this season which is only $100,000 less than Bennie Logan made as a third round pick. LSU will continue to see guys leave early. He also stated that Hill would likely be a 3rd round pick and that the first RB would like get picked in the 2nd round. (IMO, there is always a RB that slips into the bottom of the 1st round)
From what I understood, he said the biggest thing effecting this is that with the new CBA, high draft picks are making so much less.
In other words, if a guy is projected as a 4th or 5th rounder, they don't stand to gain much by coming back and improving to a 3rd round pick because the pay difference is so much smaller now. Now its smarter to not take the risk of injury because the reward of increasing their draft status is so much smaller
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:17 pm to OceanMan
But you're not guaranteed to make the jump for extra money. So you leave and take what you can get now starting an extra year earlier. That's possibly an extra 400k if you sign a second contract. It's reward vs. risk, and the reward isn't that much greater taking into account an extra year of pay.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:17 pm to ell_13
Gotcha, bro. 
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:17 pm to Cap Crunch
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In other words, if a guy is projected as a 4th or 5th rounder, they don't stand to gain much by coming back and improving to a 3rd round pick because the pay difference is so much smaller now. Now its smarter to not take the risk of injury because the reward of increasing their draft status is so much smaller
the main difference is in the top 10, which doesn't make that much sense
a 4th rounder now isn't making much, if any, more than a 4th rounder in the previous CBA
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:18 pm to toughcrittercrumb
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Anthony Jennings has to work on his foot work. That is why his passes were floating. Also, he was probably very nervous making his first start. Iowa showed him a lot of coverages he hasn't seen before. Mike made the comparison to AJ McCarron first season as a starter. AJ did the very same thing for most of that season until the last 3 games where the light seemed to come on.
6. Harris could really push Jennings. Mike is very impressed with Harris arm strength and thinks there will be a real battle in the spring. (I have to wonder if both Rivers and Retting get passed up by Harris, if we will enter the 2014 season with only two QBs.)
Harris has some work to do on his footwork as well. He will not be ready next year. Not a quick decision maker (yet), and is a bit lanky. Dude has a great arm and better charisma, but his game needs some work before he can play QB in the SEC. I'll take the guy with an extra year in the system and big game experience. I do believe Harris will be great though, and may wind up as the #1 before the current freshmen graduate.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:19 pm to OceanMan
They want to leave college because it's a year or two closer to the 2nd check. You know, the real check.
Which is how it should be.
Prove it.
Which is how it should be.
Prove it.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:19 pm to SabiDojo
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:19 pm to OceanMan
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Of course it is not guaranteed that I will make more, but I won't make any less, so the added plus is the degree.
So you had the thread of career ending injury in your studies?
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