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It’s time to evict big-time sports from American higher education - Slate.com
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:16 pm
An acquaintance from high school just posted this article on Facebook.
This guy is certainly on a high horse.
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This guy is certainly on a high horse.
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Yet the financial cost of college football is nothing compared with its cost to our integrity. Are some people such addicts that they will continue to rationalize the exploitation of workers on whose battered bodies their beloved entertainment industry is built? Does the rush of a win for the home team allow them to forget those teenagers who gamble on unlikely stardom and lose? Are they willing to stomach endemic sexism and the scourge of campus sexual assault?
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:21 pm to bamafan425
quote:had me until that
Are they willing to stomach endemic sexism
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:22 pm to bamafan425
Repost from 1920, 1930, 1940, etc.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:24 pm to bamafan425
Malcolm Gladwell is also proposing removing sports from American higher education. In fact, I believe he has written about the termination of football in general.
frick those people.
frick those people.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:27 pm to StringedInstruments
Yep, get rid of all competition and give everyone a trophy for thinking about showing up.
Merica.
Merica.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:31 pm to bamafan425
fricking liberals....
I love how some people seem to some how forget that a lot of these guys while playing college sports are also receiving a college education many wouldn't get without sports. Some of which are able to become millionaires because of it.
This guy thinks none of these kids chose to play college sports. I know if I had the opportunity to play big time college football I would have in a heart beat.
I love how some people seem to some how forget that a lot of these guys while playing college sports are also receiving a college education many wouldn't get without sports. Some of which are able to become millionaires because of it.
This guy thinks none of these kids chose to play college sports. I know if I had the opportunity to play big time college football I would have in a heart beat.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:33 pm to AlaTiger
Don't evict sports from colleges, just the televising of the sporting events. Problems solved...
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:33 pm to bamafan425
I would hate it but the hypocrisy of the system is absurd. I try not to think about it too much.
One big fix would be to make athletes be subjected to competitive admittance like normal students.
One big fix would be to make athletes be subjected to competitive admittance like normal students.
This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:37 pm to bamafan425
College educators crack me up when they start hemming and hawing about sports and their role at Universities. Some schools who don't already have a strong academic background would shite bricks if the visibility and money donated from their sports disappeared.
ETA: I'd just as easily point to somewhere like Western Kentucky, who has benefitted quite a bit from their move to FBS.
ETA: I'd just as easily point to somewhere like Western Kentucky, who has benefitted quite a bit from their move to FBS.
This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:37 pm to gizmoflak
Liberals and academia hate sports... they would rather people be entertained by the arts, theatre, music, etc.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:42 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Some schools who don't already have a strong academic background would shite bricks if the visibility and money donated from their sports disappeared.
Our chancellor has said Saban was the best investment the school has ever made and it shows.
The number of students enrolling goes up every year. Massive influx of out of state students. New buildings going up all the time. They just bought more land to develop on.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:43 pm to bamafan425
I always wince when some professors consistently decry the big-time money game of college athletics while deciding to overlook the big-time money game that higher education has become. They will not complain of higher student fees to increase their own salaries while they leave the actual teaching to poorly paid adjuncts, nor will they complain when fees go up to fund new construction on an office building when others could be renovated at lower cost. But lord knows they will bitch and moan about football, as though athletics contribute absolutely nothing to the university.
The hypocrisy is laughable. Professors like this who claim they are arbiters for truth and knowledge need to get off their high horses as college continues to become a breeding ground for grade inflation, turning institutions of higher learning into diploma mills that exist more and more to extract money from students to make them into alumni who will donate more money.
Reform is needed in college athletics -- no question. But this kind of self-important drivel is not going to get us there.
The hypocrisy is laughable. Professors like this who claim they are arbiters for truth and knowledge need to get off their high horses as college continues to become a breeding ground for grade inflation, turning institutions of higher learning into diploma mills that exist more and more to extract money from students to make them into alumni who will donate more money.
Reform is needed in college athletics -- no question. But this kind of self-important drivel is not going to get us there.
This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:48 pm to bamafan425
the guy makes some points that should be pondered. his over the top delivery discredits him though. what pisses me off more than anything is that LSU has to literally beg for donations to the university while people line up and willingly contribute substantial amounts to the athletic dept. my degree from LSU made it possible for me to make literally millions of more dollars in my career than if i had not gotten it. sure, football is fun and i certainly don't advocate dropping it. i just hate to the important stuff ignored (like education).
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:48 pm to BluegrassBelle
Probably some truth to it. Many atheletes wouldn't qualify for the schools they attend without academic waivers. Even at schools with good scholastic reps, many of their football and basketball players wouldn't attend if they didn't play sports, and without lots of academic help wouldn't stay eligible.
Maybe it's time for a semi pro system separate from higher education.
Maybe it's time for a semi pro system separate from higher education.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Maybe it's time for a semi pro system separate from higher education.
i've advocated this for years. i think it would be best for the majority of players too.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:56 pm to LSU GrandDad
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i've advocated this for years. i think it would be best for the majority of players too.
It's definitely something I think a lot of people could get behind.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:10 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Maybe it's time for a semi pro system separate from higher education.
Definitely an interesting thought.
Here's my thought though. For the vast majority of student athletes, an athletic scholarship is just a way to pay for college. Only the top athletes go on to play pro sports. If a semi-pro system was set up, it would hurt a majority of the kids going in college athletics right now. To quote that damn recurring NCAA commercial, "There are over 400,000 NCAA student-athletes, and most of us will go pro in something other than sports."
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:25 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Probably some truth to it.
It's hard to separate ourselves from being influenced by emotion and our natural tendency to cling to tradition - but I think the argument that government has no place in sports is a compelling one.
Technically, they could sell the programs and operate completely separate from each other. No sports scholarships, no special attention to student athletes, etc. Some of these programs could fetch hundreds of millions or nice annuities.
The problem is that if you're going to do away with football then why not Track and Field, lacrosse, tennis, etc? Most of these amateur sports/semi-pro programs would not be able to exist by themselves.
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 12:27 am
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:25 am to RTR America
quote:Whoa now.
I love how some people seem to some how forget that a lot of these guys while playing college sports are also receiving a college education many wouldn't get without sports.
Lets slow down there, hoss.
quote:That is probably as rare individual as one who makes it to the show.
Some of which are able to become millionaires because of it.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:32 am to bamafan425
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It’s time to evict big-time sports from American higher education
What a new and refreshing idea.
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