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Shooting close range
Posted on 12/27/13 at 4:37 am
Posted on 12/27/13 at 4:37 am
I'll be shooting a 300wsm this morning. I found some rubs and scrapes in a really thick area yesterday and the best way to hunt it is on the ground. There's a good possibility that a deer could come out around 10-15 yards. Question is, where do I aim when it's that close?
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Posted on 12/27/13 at 4:56 am to DTRooster
What is your rifle set at? You have a hand gun like a .357 or bigger? If so, use that and place shot at the heart.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 5:41 am to A_bear
I aim at the same place at 10 or 200yds. The vitals.
I have been known to shoot one in the neck.
I have been known to shoot one in the neck.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 5:43 am to fishfighter
It's zeroed at 100 yards. I would aim a couple inches low right? Since the bullet rises from the time it leaves the muzzle to the time It hits at 100 yards. Is this correct? Only pistol I own is a m&p 9mm. Thought about bringing buck shot but there's a small clearing to my right I can see about 70 yards into. I don't think a deer would walk through it but if one does and I can't reach it with buckshot I'm going to be mad so I brought the rifle.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 5:52 am to A_bear
Scoped gun right? If your zero'd at 100 aim about an inch high. Bullet is rising to 100 and further so gonna be low at 15
This post was edited on 12/27/13 at 5:54 am
Posted on 12/27/13 at 6:01 am to DTRooster
That makes sense. I got it. Good thing I posted here because I was thinking to aim low. Yeah it's scoped. Xbolt 300wsm
Posted on 12/27/13 at 6:52 am to A_bear
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It's zeroed at 100 yards. I would aim a couple inches low right? Since the bullet rises from the time it leaves the muzzle to the time It hits at 100 yards. Is this correct?
Posted on 12/27/13 at 6:54 am to A_bear
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It's zeroed at 100 yards. I would aim a couple inches low right? Since the bullet rises from the time it leaves the muzzle to the time It hits at 100 yards. Is this correct?
No. That is not correct.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 6:57 am to DTRooster
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If your zero'd at 100 aim about an inch high
No this is not correct, he should be a couple inches low at short range.
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Bullet is rising to 100 and further so gonna be low at 15
Bullet don't rise. You have it being low here but said high at first.
I have always just put it on them and pulled the trigger. I did see a guy miss a good buck because he shot under it at close range.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 6:57 am to ISmellMischief
I would just aim center mass at 10 yards there won't be that much difference to miss a deer. However a good ballistics calculator is your friend....
LINK
LINK
Posted on 12/27/13 at 7:46 am to Da Hammer
Trash you might want to read again
This post was edited on 12/27/13 at 7:49 am
Posted on 12/27/13 at 7:51 am to A_bear
Aim center of the lungs. Even 3 inches low would still be in the lung/heart area
A gun sighted dead at 0 will be high at 100.
A bow sighted at 0 will be high at 20
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Bullet don't rise
A gun sighted dead at 0 will be high at 100.
A bow sighted at 0 will be high at 20
This post was edited on 12/27/13 at 7:58 am
Posted on 12/27/13 at 8:09 am to A_bear
Some of you should take a look at a ballistics chart before making some of the statements you are making. The truth of the matter is that bullets do rise and the 300wsm rises a lot, up to 2.6 inches or more depending on the bullet you are shooting. However, at 15 yards the bullet is not going to have much time to rise.
Secondly, you are not going to get convergence on a 300wsm that is zeroed at 100 yards. The scope sits approx. one inch above the bore of the rifle. Sometimes this means that the bullet trajectory is raised in order to meet the "bore" of the scope therefore making the bullet hit the target where the crosshairs.
At 100 yards the 300wsm rises about 2.5 inches, therefore your gun is shooting at a trajectory lower than that of the scope to compensate for the bullet rise and get a zero at 100 yards.
My suggestion would be zero your rifle at 200 yards and always shoot for the center of the heart. At 100 yards you would be little bit high, but considering a deers heart is about a four inch target, you will still impact the heart even if the bullet travels up. Out to a bout 300 and even 400 yards you won't have a lot of bullet drop and can still hit that same 4 inch target by putting your crosshairs on the center of the deers heart.
At 15 yards, the scope is only about an inch higher than the bore of the rifle. I would still aim for the center of the heart. Yes, the bullet impact will be slightly lower than where you will be aiming, but will still impact within the area of the heart. If you are still really unsure, shoot him through the lungs. The lungs are a bigger target.
Secondly, you are not going to get convergence on a 300wsm that is zeroed at 100 yards. The scope sits approx. one inch above the bore of the rifle. Sometimes this means that the bullet trajectory is raised in order to meet the "bore" of the scope therefore making the bullet hit the target where the crosshairs.
At 100 yards the 300wsm rises about 2.5 inches, therefore your gun is shooting at a trajectory lower than that of the scope to compensate for the bullet rise and get a zero at 100 yards.
My suggestion would be zero your rifle at 200 yards and always shoot for the center of the heart. At 100 yards you would be little bit high, but considering a deers heart is about a four inch target, you will still impact the heart even if the bullet travels up. Out to a bout 300 and even 400 yards you won't have a lot of bullet drop and can still hit that same 4 inch target by putting your crosshairs on the center of the deers heart.
At 15 yards, the scope is only about an inch higher than the bore of the rifle. I would still aim for the center of the heart. Yes, the bullet impact will be slightly lower than where you will be aiming, but will still impact within the area of the heart. If you are still really unsure, shoot him through the lungs. The lungs are a bigger target.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 8:45 am to Lpmann3
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shoot him through the lungs. The lungs are a bigger target
This is my suggestion as well and what I always do. You may have to do a little tracking, but you won't mess up any shoulder meat and will have a blood trail that even Stevie Wonder could follow.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 8:47 am to Lpmann3
i have always heard people shoot for vitals.. not me. I shoot bucks high shoulder/base of neck, and does in the head.
If i miss on a head shot then it is a clean miss, also salvages all meat when I do not.
If you are off 1in or 2in shooting hi shoulder/base of neck- deer still drops in his tracks. That is with my Rem 6mm(.244), which is likely a much smaller caliber than most otheres prefer.
Vitals shots are much more likely to lead to a cripple loss or all freaking night blood trail.
I guess, like anything else it just depends on how you learn.
If i miss on a head shot then it is a clean miss, also salvages all meat when I do not.
If you are off 1in or 2in shooting hi shoulder/base of neck- deer still drops in his tracks. That is with my Rem 6mm(.244), which is likely a much smaller caliber than most otheres prefer.
Vitals shots are much more likely to lead to a cripple loss or all freaking night blood trail.
I guess, like anything else it just depends on how you learn.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 8:50 am to WRedmondsStang
Same here, I shoot em in the noodle with the 243 but I'm not an in the house horn guy either
Posted on 12/27/13 at 8:55 am to DTRooster
Again to the OP and everyone else use the link I put up for the ballistics calculator it will give you PRECISE data on where the bullet will hit. Other option PRACTICE at 10 yards and know the answer.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 1:10 pm to A_bear
I suggest not hunting 10 yds off of a scrape
Posted on 12/27/13 at 1:52 pm to Rod Farva
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I suggest not hunting 10 yds off of a scrape
This.
You could always just take your scope and mounts off the rifle if you are dead set on shooting this close.
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