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Could Jeremy Hill be first or 2nd RB off the draft board?

Posted on 12/21/13 at 11:08 am
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
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Posted on 12/21/13 at 11:08 am
With Melvin Gordon stating that he's returning, the top 3 backs IMO, are Carey, Seastrunk, and Hill. Carey says if he doesn't get a 1st or 2nd round grade, then he's getting his degree. Seastrunk is also looking at draft grade. Hill has the speed (i'm predicting a sub 4.5 40) and power (dragged a couple guys on numerous occasions), and amazing athleticism for a guy his size. At 6'2 234lbs, I have seen him hurdle defenders, run through defenders, and show amazing balance and vision. He has also developed as a pass catcher this year and was an easy safety valve for Mett/Jennings.

Dude has everything you could want except for maybe great blocking (don't know how good he is here).
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37136 posts
Posted on 12/21/13 at 11:12 am to
Andre Williams at BC?
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
4466 posts
Posted on 12/21/13 at 11:13 am to
dude has the physical talent to be as good as he wants to be. got to get his mind right. if he learns to run angry, he will be a star. if he thinks he will be a star by showing up, then guys much less talented like t mcgee will continue to take carries from him for the rest of his career.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21079 posts
Posted on 12/21/13 at 11:13 am to
Then you have the negative off the field issues. Don't know how far that drops him. He's the one guy that I think for certain should go though, unless he falls out of the top 3 rounds (which won't happen).
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10447 posts
Posted on 12/21/13 at 11:18 am to
How does his legal situation impact his decision to go pro?
Posted by aslavey
Chicago
Member since Nov 2013
1380 posts
Posted on 12/21/13 at 11:21 am to
I would not draft him before the 7th round.
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 12/21/13 at 11:26 am to
If I was an owner I would prefer he prove over the period of another year that he has got his mind right...and sometimes he doesn't run as tough as he could have. Yes, the money is very attractive to Hill, and I would take it if I were he and he is taken the first round. But to pay a guy a lot of money he'd have to show me more over another year...jmho
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10023 posts
Posted on 12/21/13 at 11:30 am to
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He's the one guy that I think for certain should go though, unless he falls out of the top 3 rounds (which won't happen).


This. A running backs draft grade doesn't really go up or down significantly based on returning for another year. NFL scouts have all the film on Jeremy Hill against SEC defenses they will need, plus he's a physical beast. He gone...
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 12/21/13 at 11:46 am to
But how much guaranteed money does he sign for..that's the big question...jmho, that figure could go up substantially if he proved he's stabilized over another year...if he jumps for a small amount and doesn't impress right off the bat, he will have left a lot of money on the table...
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/21/13 at 11:50 am to
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I would not draft him before the 7th round.

Posted by la champ1
Member since Oct 2012
1435 posts
Posted on 12/21/13 at 11:50 am to
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With Melvin Gordon stating that he's returning, the top 3 backs IMO, are Carey, Seastrunk, and Hill. Carey says if he doesn't get a 1st or 2nd round grade, then he's getting his degree. Seastrunk is also looking at draft grade. Hill has the speed (i'm predicting a sub 4.5 40) and power (dragged a couple guys on numerous occasions), and amazing athleticism for a guy his size. At 6'2 234lbs, I have seen him hurdle defenders, run through defenders, and show amazing balance and vision. He has also developed as a pass catcher this year and was an easy safety valve for Mett/Jennings. Dude has everything you could want except for maybe great blocking (don't know how good he is here).


Hill is definitely a top 3 back, maybe even top 2, depending on the physical attributes of the boston college RB. Carey and Seastrunk, I don't see grading out as high as Hill, due to the fact that they are much smaller backs, and not typical NFL 20 carry a game backs. Think LaMichael James from Oregon. Phenomenal small college back with great ability in college, but in the pros you have to grind it out physically with the tough yards, and every so often you get that long run. James is used sparingly with the 49ers. Mainly punt returns, and a few carries every now and then. Hill is great value with his size, speed, and pass catching ability. He can be a 3 down player from the start, and handle 18-20 carries a game, and has also shown what he is capable of against the best competition the last two years. Different world from college. Hill is easily a 2nd rounder, absolutely no lower than a third unless he just bombed interviews and tested horribly.
Posted by gjackx
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2007
16523 posts
Posted on 12/21/13 at 11:51 am to
Last year started a new trend. You won't see many backs go in the first anymore...but, it all happens in trends.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26664 posts
Posted on 12/21/13 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Last year started a new trend. You won't see many backs go in the first anymore...but, it all happens in trends.



Nah, Next year Yeldon, Gurley, Gordon, all these guys are going in the first round. These are franchise type RBs. All these guys have the size, speed, and power you want in an NFL back.

Look who are the better teams this year, KC, SEA, DEN. All have that dynamic RB in common.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 12/21/13 at 12:34 pm to
Most of the teams still use a power running game when they run the football. Its true that a RBs value isnt what it used to be, but its still valued. Its not like they dont value them at all. And when you have a guy like Melvin Gordon and Gurley, they are 1st rounders.

Hill is a top 3 RB in this draft. 2nd rounder
This post was edited on 12/21/13 at 12:39 pm
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 12/21/13 at 12:34 pm to
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Nah, Next year Yeldon, Gurley, Gordon, all these guys are going in the first round. These are franchise type RBs. All these guys have the size, speed, and power you want in an NFL back.

No they won't.

Drafting tailbacks in the 1st Round is a tactic that has failed a number of teams recently. Will they go early in the 2nd Round? Yes.

Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21079 posts
Posted on 12/21/13 at 12:43 pm to
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Posted by novabill How does his legal situation impact his decision to go pro?


I'm not talking about impacting his decision. I'm talking about it impacting where he is taken.
Posted by Rod Farva
Spurbury, Vermont
Member since Sep 2012
1136 posts
Posted on 12/21/13 at 2:11 pm to
Anyone who thinks hill is better than seastrunk needs their head examined.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75219 posts
Posted on 12/21/13 at 2:17 pm to
I would put Bishop Sankey ahead of Hill
Posted by tigersnipen
Member since Dec 2006
2085 posts
Posted on 12/21/13 at 2:42 pm to
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Anyone who thinks hill is better than seastrunk needs their head examined


Easy to look great against Big 12 defenses
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12906 posts
Posted on 12/21/13 at 2:45 pm to
I think that kid from Towson will go in the first 3 rounds. Not that will affect Hill, but it alters the landscape a little.
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