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Peeking at Who the Saints didn't draft
Posted on 12/10/13 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 12/10/13 at 4:57 pm
We had quite a few polls and draft related dialogue as to who the #15 pick should be. Jarvis Jones was the consensus favorite that was passed by. We've been checking on him through the year and KV has definitely been the higher impact player thus far.
There were several other players who were available and wanted more by some STers. Here's a check on those-
Shariff Floyd DT vikes- have only seen him referred to as a rotational player in the Minny press. Stats reflect that: 1 start, 7 tackles, 2.5 sacks
Alec Ogletree- you'll see him this week for the Rams. He has prolly been the most productive of the others. Every down LB with 80tackles, 15 assts, 4 forced fumbles, 7 pass defenses, 1 sack, and 1 INT that broke the record for longest a LB- 98yd TD
Xavier Rhodes CB vikes- has played well but more often injured. Oct 14 sprained ankle, Nov 5 knee & shoulder injury, Nov 25 concussion, ankle sprain again last weekend
Bjoern Werner Colts- started his first game a few weeks back but was back on the bench afterwards. Rotoworld sez his snaps have been limited from ineffective play and dealing with a torn plantar fascia. A half sack, 10tackles, 2 assts
Kevin Minter AZ- 10 games, no starts, 2 tackles
Tank Carradine- never active though there was little expectation for this year. IRed today
There were several other players who were available and wanted more by some STers. Here's a check on those-
Shariff Floyd DT vikes- have only seen him referred to as a rotational player in the Minny press. Stats reflect that: 1 start, 7 tackles, 2.5 sacks
Alec Ogletree- you'll see him this week for the Rams. He has prolly been the most productive of the others. Every down LB with 80tackles, 15 assts, 4 forced fumbles, 7 pass defenses, 1 sack, and 1 INT that broke the record for longest a LB- 98yd TD
Xavier Rhodes CB vikes- has played well but more often injured. Oct 14 sprained ankle, Nov 5 knee & shoulder injury, Nov 25 concussion, ankle sprain again last weekend
Bjoern Werner Colts- started his first game a few weeks back but was back on the bench afterwards. Rotoworld sez his snaps have been limited from ineffective play and dealing with a torn plantar fascia. A half sack, 10tackles, 2 assts
Kevin Minter AZ- 10 games, no starts, 2 tackles
Tank Carradine- never active though there was little expectation for this year. IRed today
Posted on 12/10/13 at 5:02 pm to blueslover
Maybe the front office knows what they're doing more than people on a message board after all.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 5:08 pm to blueslover
Weren't we interested in a DL that got drafted by Detroit ?
Posted on 12/10/13 at 5:10 pm to Northwestern tiger
quote:You can't draft an entire Defensive Line, NT.
Weren't we interested in a DL that got drafted by Detroit ?
Posted on 12/10/13 at 5:12 pm to Hoodoo Man
quote:
NT
Isn't Ansah a DE/OLB?
Posted on 12/10/13 at 5:20 pm to blueslover
I'm not knocking KV, but Reid was another possible pick.
He's played well besides the concussions.
He's played well besides the concussions.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 5:38 pm to blueslover
I wanted more than anything to trade back and take either Xavier Rhodes, Nuk Hopkins, or Keenan Allen.
KV has surprised the hell out of me, but I think we would have been pretty happy with either of those moves as well.
More than anything I wanted Star or Richardson which would have been incredible with the DL we currently have, but obviously they were already off the board.
KV has surprised the hell out of me, but I think we would have been pretty happy with either of those moves as well.
More than anything I wanted Star or Richardson which would have been incredible with the DL we currently have, but obviously they were already off the board.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 5:47 pm to blueslover
quote:
Alec Ogletree
yeah that was me who kept hitting the drum for Ogletree.
Hawthorne has played really well I think.
My thing was more about Vilma and some depth issues we had that position. I guess it was more paranoia then anything. We had rotten luck with injuries in 2012 at LB.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 5:50 pm to Dead End
quote:I actually think KV is having a better year.
I'm not knocking KV, but Reid was another possible pick.
And one thing I notice, KV gets better every game.
I don't see that as much with Reid.
I think KV has more upside.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 5:54 pm to Hoodoo Man
KV is better. Dude straight up wins games.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 5:57 pm to Hoodoo Man
I wanted Reid, but I'm more than happy with KV.
He's been solid and keeps getting better.
He's been solid and keeps getting better.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 6:04 pm to blueslover
What about Eric Reid?
61 Tackles 3 Int 2 FR
61 Tackles 3 Int 2 FR
Posted on 12/10/13 at 6:07 pm to blueslover
Ogletree will prob be DROY. Dude is a stud.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 6:52 pm to blueslover
you forgot the dumb as a brick kiko alonso! LOL
btw - did you guys notice? A LB is leading the league in INTs (Detroit's deandre levy)
btw - did you guys notice? A LB is leading the league in INTs (Detroit's deandre levy)
Posted on 12/10/13 at 6:55 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
Ogletree will prob be DROY. Dude is a stud.
Was way off on him. Thought he was an overrated scrub off a shite D.
Looks like he was the only player on that unit with a pulse.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 7:03 pm to SammyTiger
Reid did get two votes to be the draft pick. Alonso zero votes.
Also looks like our 3rd Rd Jenkins is contributing more than quite a few 1st & 2nd Rd DTs (like Floyd).
Also looks like our 3rd Rd Jenkins is contributing more than quite a few 1st & 2nd Rd DTs (like Floyd).
Posted on 12/10/13 at 8:13 pm to SammyTiger
It was all scheme purposes. Reid fits the hard nose knock out safety style of the 49ers, but he never was used at nickel back or at corner. He makes plays, but isn't a man to man guy. Vacarro can do it all
Posted on 12/10/13 at 8:21 pm to Tiger_Pride64
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Ogletree will prob be DROY.
I think Kiko may have something to say about that!
Posted on 12/10/13 at 8:27 pm to blueslover
Ziggy ansah is killing it.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 8:39 pm to ryan985
Kiko hasn't made a play in 10 weeks
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