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Where does Mett rank among the all time great LSU QBs?
Posted on 12/1/13 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 12/1/13 at 4:05 pm
Clearly he is the best since JR and arguably better than JR was IMO
His only poor outing was against Ole Miss this year. Even in the losses to Bama and UGA he played very well.
It might be a decade before we see another QB that good at LSU
His only poor outing was against Ole Miss this year. Even in the losses to Bama and UGA he played very well.
It might be a decade before we see another QB that good at LSU
Posted on 12/1/13 at 4:14 pm to Powerman
Somewhere between 5-10.
However, he could possibly have one of the best Pro careers of any LSU QB.
However, he could possibly have one of the best Pro careers of any LSU QB.
This post was edited on 12/1/13 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 12/1/13 at 4:29 pm to Powerman
Somewhere below All-SEC, Manning award winner Jamarcus Russel.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 4:34 pm to Powerman
About where David Woodley ranks. Good, but not great.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 4:36 pm to Powerman
The kid acquitted himself well during his years at LSU despite not having a legit OC until this year.
Not ready to bestow Bert Jones status on him but definitely in the top five. Big potential moving on to the NFL.
Not ready to bestow Bert Jones status on him but definitely in the top five. Big potential moving on to the NFL.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 4:39 pm to Powerman
Mettenberger is the best I've seen at LSU, and I go back to Lynn Amedee in 1960. Bert Jones and I were students at LSU at the same time. Bert was the best I've seen before Mett. Both, I think, have been better than Jamarcus. I didn't get to see Y A Tittle while he was at LSU, but he was amazing while playing with the Giants.
LSU is not a school great QBs gravitate to--why, I don't know. Mett was one of two great QBs Georgia recruited at the same time (Aaron Murray.) They get great ones all the time, and we had to get our best one as a cast off from Georgia.
Anthony Jennings may change that. Georgia didn't even recruit him; they had someone already they felt was better. When Jennings stepped to the 1 yard line with little time left I felt we had no chance. The boy is just out of high school. He then took LSU down the field like an All American senior, like McCarron did against us last year, like Bert Jones did against Ole Miss in '72 ('71?) Just astonishing. He may become one of the great legends of LSU.
LSU is not a school great QBs gravitate to--why, I don't know. Mett was one of two great QBs Georgia recruited at the same time (Aaron Murray.) They get great ones all the time, and we had to get our best one as a cast off from Georgia.
Anthony Jennings may change that. Georgia didn't even recruit him; they had someone already they felt was better. When Jennings stepped to the 1 yard line with little time left I felt we had no chance. The boy is just out of high school. He then took LSU down the field like an All American senior, like McCarron did against us last year, like Bert Jones did against Ole Miss in '72 ('71?) Just astonishing. He may become one of the great legends of LSU.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 4:40 pm to Powerman
quote:
and arguably better than JR was IMO
no, imo.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 4:45 pm to Powerman
lots of stats for you. names are severely abbreviated here..
QBs with at least 100 attempts
Mett 2013 - 192/296, 3082 yds, 65% comp, 10.1y/a, 171 RAT, 22 TD, 8 INT
Mett 2012 - 207/352, 2609 yds, 59% comp, 7.4 y/a, 128 RAT, 12 TD, 7 INT
JLee 2011 - 104/167, 1306 yds, 62% comp, 7.8 y/a, 152 RAT, 14 TD, 3 INT
JJef 2011 - 61/100, 737yards, 61% comp, 7.4 y/a, 139 RAT, 6 TD, 2 INT
JJef 2010 - 118/209, 1411 yds, 56% comp, 6.8 y/a, 115 RAT, 7 TD, 10INT
JJef 2009 - 182/292, 2166 yds, 62% comp, 7.3 y/a, 137 RAT, 17 TD, 7 INT
JLee 2008 - 143/269, 1873 yds, 53% comp, 7.0 y/a, 116 RAT, 13 TD, 16INT
Flyn 2007 - 202/359, 2407 yds, 56% comp, 6.7 y/a, 126 RAT, 21 TD, 11INT
JRus 2006 - 232/342, 3129 yds, 68% comp, 9.1 y/a, 167 RAT, 28 TD, 8 INT
JRus 2005 - 188/311, 2443 yds, 60% comp, 7.9 y/a, 137 RAT, 15 TD, 9 INT
JRus 2004 - 73/144, 1053 yds, 51% comp, 7.3 y/a, 127 RAT, 9 TD, 4 INT
MRan 2004 - 102/162, 1269 yds, 63% comp, 7.9 y/a, 140 RAT, 9 TD, 6 INT
MMau 2003 - 229/358, 2825 yds, 64% comp, 7.9 y/a, 148 RAT, 28 TD, 14INT
MRan 2002 - 87/181, 1173 yds, 48% comp, 6.5 y/a, 110 RAT, 7 TD, 5 INT
MMau 2002 - 63/130, 782 yds, 48% comp, 6.0 y/a, 119 RAT, 9 TD, 2 INT
Davy 2001 - 217/367, 3347 yds, 59% comp, 9.1 y/a, 146 RAT, 18 TD, 10 INT
Boot 2000 - 145/290, 2121 yds, 50% comp, 7.3 y/a, 120 RAT, 17 TD, 15 INT
Boot 1999 - 162/333, 1830 yds, 49% comp, 5.5 y/a, 90 RAT, 7 TD, 19 INT
Tylr 1998 - 153/250, 2018 yds, 61% comp, 8.1 y/a, 147 RAT, 18 TD, 7 INT
Tylr 1997 - 127/209, 1581 yds, 61% comp, 7.6 y/a, 133 RAT, 10 TD, 7 INT
Tylr 1996 - 109/188, 1688 yds, 58% comp, 9.0 y/a, 137 RAT, 7 TD, 8 INT
Howd 1995 - 112/212, 1493 yds, 53% comp, 7.0 y/a, 121 RAT, 9 TD, 5 INT
Howd 1994 - 140/274, 1997 yds, 51% comp, 7.3 y/a, 116 RAT, 13 TD, 17 INT
Howd 1993 - 106/248, 1319 yds, 43% comp, 5.3 y/a, 87 RAT, 7 TD, 12 INT
Howd 1992 - 101/200, 1349 yds, 50% comp, 6.7 y/a, 102 RAT, 5 TD, 13 INT
Loup 1991 - 102/174, 1181 yds, 59% comp, 6.8 y/a, 124 RAT, 9 TD, 8 INT
Daig 1991 - 61/119, 879 yds, 51% comp, 7.4 y/a, 119 RAT, 5 TD, 5 INT
Loup 1990 - 75/141, 975 yds, 53% comp, 6.9 y/a, 113 RAT, 3 TD, 4 INT
Grav 1990 - 49/101, 638 yds, 48% comp, 6.3 y/a, 118 RAT, 5 TD, 0 INT
Hdsn 1989 - 183/317, 2655 yds, 58% comp, 8.4 y/a, 143 RAT, 22 TD, 12 INT
Hdsn 1988 - 154/293, 2074 yds, 53% comp, 7.1 y/a, 119 RAT, 13 TD, 12 INT
Hdsn 1987 - 162/265, 2125 yds, 61% comp, 8.0 y/a, 140 RAT, 15 TD, 9 INT
Hdsn 1986 - 175/288, 2261 yds, 61% comp, 7.9 y/a, 143 RAT, 19 TD, 8 INT
Wshm 1985 - 209/346, 2145 yds, 60% comp, 6.2 y/a, 112 RAT, 5 TD, 9 INT (jeff wickersham)
Wshm 1984 - 178/312, 2165 yds, 57% comp, 6.9 y/a, 120 RAT, 12 TD, 13 INT
Wshm 1983 - 193/337, 2542 yds, 57% comp, 7.5 y/a, 117 RAT, 7 TD, 17 INT
Rshr 1982 - 149/234, 1834 yds, 64% comp, 7.8 y/a, 147 RAT, 17 TD, 8 INT
Rshr 1981 - 150/238, 1780 yds, 63% comp, 7.5 y/a, 124 RAT, 5 TD, 10 INT
Rshr 1980 - 82/143, 971 yds, 57% comp, 6.8 y/a, 127 RAT, 9 TD, 6 INT
QBs with at least 100 attempts
Mett 2013 - 192/296, 3082 yds, 65% comp, 10.1y/a, 171 RAT, 22 TD, 8 INT
Mett 2012 - 207/352, 2609 yds, 59% comp, 7.4 y/a, 128 RAT, 12 TD, 7 INT
JLee 2011 - 104/167, 1306 yds, 62% comp, 7.8 y/a, 152 RAT, 14 TD, 3 INT
JJef 2011 - 61/100, 737yards, 61% comp, 7.4 y/a, 139 RAT, 6 TD, 2 INT
JJef 2010 - 118/209, 1411 yds, 56% comp, 6.8 y/a, 115 RAT, 7 TD, 10INT
JJef 2009 - 182/292, 2166 yds, 62% comp, 7.3 y/a, 137 RAT, 17 TD, 7 INT
JLee 2008 - 143/269, 1873 yds, 53% comp, 7.0 y/a, 116 RAT, 13 TD, 16INT
Flyn 2007 - 202/359, 2407 yds, 56% comp, 6.7 y/a, 126 RAT, 21 TD, 11INT
JRus 2006 - 232/342, 3129 yds, 68% comp, 9.1 y/a, 167 RAT, 28 TD, 8 INT
JRus 2005 - 188/311, 2443 yds, 60% comp, 7.9 y/a, 137 RAT, 15 TD, 9 INT
JRus 2004 - 73/144, 1053 yds, 51% comp, 7.3 y/a, 127 RAT, 9 TD, 4 INT
MRan 2004 - 102/162, 1269 yds, 63% comp, 7.9 y/a, 140 RAT, 9 TD, 6 INT
MMau 2003 - 229/358, 2825 yds, 64% comp, 7.9 y/a, 148 RAT, 28 TD, 14INT
MRan 2002 - 87/181, 1173 yds, 48% comp, 6.5 y/a, 110 RAT, 7 TD, 5 INT
MMau 2002 - 63/130, 782 yds, 48% comp, 6.0 y/a, 119 RAT, 9 TD, 2 INT
Davy 2001 - 217/367, 3347 yds, 59% comp, 9.1 y/a, 146 RAT, 18 TD, 10 INT
Boot 2000 - 145/290, 2121 yds, 50% comp, 7.3 y/a, 120 RAT, 17 TD, 15 INT
Boot 1999 - 162/333, 1830 yds, 49% comp, 5.5 y/a, 90 RAT, 7 TD, 19 INT
Tylr 1998 - 153/250, 2018 yds, 61% comp, 8.1 y/a, 147 RAT, 18 TD, 7 INT
Tylr 1997 - 127/209, 1581 yds, 61% comp, 7.6 y/a, 133 RAT, 10 TD, 7 INT
Tylr 1996 - 109/188, 1688 yds, 58% comp, 9.0 y/a, 137 RAT, 7 TD, 8 INT
Howd 1995 - 112/212, 1493 yds, 53% comp, 7.0 y/a, 121 RAT, 9 TD, 5 INT
Howd 1994 - 140/274, 1997 yds, 51% comp, 7.3 y/a, 116 RAT, 13 TD, 17 INT
Howd 1993 - 106/248, 1319 yds, 43% comp, 5.3 y/a, 87 RAT, 7 TD, 12 INT
Howd 1992 - 101/200, 1349 yds, 50% comp, 6.7 y/a, 102 RAT, 5 TD, 13 INT
Loup 1991 - 102/174, 1181 yds, 59% comp, 6.8 y/a, 124 RAT, 9 TD, 8 INT
Daig 1991 - 61/119, 879 yds, 51% comp, 7.4 y/a, 119 RAT, 5 TD, 5 INT
Loup 1990 - 75/141, 975 yds, 53% comp, 6.9 y/a, 113 RAT, 3 TD, 4 INT
Grav 1990 - 49/101, 638 yds, 48% comp, 6.3 y/a, 118 RAT, 5 TD, 0 INT
Hdsn 1989 - 183/317, 2655 yds, 58% comp, 8.4 y/a, 143 RAT, 22 TD, 12 INT
Hdsn 1988 - 154/293, 2074 yds, 53% comp, 7.1 y/a, 119 RAT, 13 TD, 12 INT
Hdsn 1987 - 162/265, 2125 yds, 61% comp, 8.0 y/a, 140 RAT, 15 TD, 9 INT
Hdsn 1986 - 175/288, 2261 yds, 61% comp, 7.9 y/a, 143 RAT, 19 TD, 8 INT
Wshm 1985 - 209/346, 2145 yds, 60% comp, 6.2 y/a, 112 RAT, 5 TD, 9 INT (jeff wickersham)
Wshm 1984 - 178/312, 2165 yds, 57% comp, 6.9 y/a, 120 RAT, 12 TD, 13 INT
Wshm 1983 - 193/337, 2542 yds, 57% comp, 7.5 y/a, 117 RAT, 7 TD, 17 INT
Rshr 1982 - 149/234, 1834 yds, 64% comp, 7.8 y/a, 147 RAT, 17 TD, 8 INT
Rshr 1981 - 150/238, 1780 yds, 63% comp, 7.5 y/a, 124 RAT, 5 TD, 10 INT
Rshr 1980 - 82/143, 971 yds, 57% comp, 6.8 y/a, 127 RAT, 9 TD, 6 INT
Posted on 12/1/13 at 4:50 pm to Powerman
Since 2000 ...
1) JR
2) Mett
3) Rohan
4) Flynn
5) Mauck
JR gets the nod over Mett because his remarkable season was as a Junior.
1) JR
2) Mett
3) Rohan
4) Flynn
5) Mauck
JR gets the nod over Mett because his remarkable season was as a Junior.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 4:56 pm to AreJay
Since 1980, top 5
Attempts
2001 Davey, 367
2007 Flynn, 359
2003 Mauck, 358
2012 Mett, 352
1985 Wickerhsam, 346
Yards
2001 Davey 3347
2006 Russell 3129
2013 Mett 3082
2003 Mauck 2825
1989 Hodson 2655
1983 Wickersham 2542
Completion %
2006 Russell, 68%
2013 Mett, 65%
2003 Mauck, 64%
1982 Risher, 64%
1981 Risher, 63%
2004 Randall, 63%
Yards per attempt
2013 Mett, 10.1
2006 Russell, 9.1
2001 Davey, 9.1
1996 Tyler, 9.0
1989 Hodsn, 8.4
1998 Tyler, 8.1
QB Rating
2013 Mett, 171
2006 Russell, 167
2011 Lee, 152
2003 Mauck, 148
1982 Risher, 147
1998 Tyler, 147
TDs
2003 Mauck, 28
2006 Russell, 28
2013 Mett, 22
1989 Hodson, 22
2007 Flynn, 21
Attempts
2001 Davey, 367
2007 Flynn, 359
2003 Mauck, 358
2012 Mett, 352
1985 Wickerhsam, 346
Yards
2001 Davey 3347
2006 Russell 3129
2013 Mett 3082
2003 Mauck 2825
1989 Hodson 2655
1983 Wickersham 2542
Completion %
2006 Russell, 68%
2013 Mett, 65%
2003 Mauck, 64%
1982 Risher, 64%
1981 Risher, 63%
2004 Randall, 63%
Yards per attempt
2013 Mett, 10.1
2006 Russell, 9.1
2001 Davey, 9.1
1996 Tyler, 9.0
1989 Hodsn, 8.4
1998 Tyler, 8.1
QB Rating
2013 Mett, 171
2006 Russell, 167
2011 Lee, 152
2003 Mauck, 148
1982 Risher, 147
1998 Tyler, 147
TDs
2003 Mauck, 28
2006 Russell, 28
2013 Mett, 22
1989 Hodson, 22
2007 Flynn, 21
Posted on 12/1/13 at 6:37 pm to AreJay
quote:
AreJay
Don't mean to hijack the thread, but the thing that shocks me the most about the numbers you posted are the amount of attempts Jeff Wickersham had during his 3 years as starting QB. He averaged 332 attempts per year when the next QB (Hodson) only averaged 291 attempts per year.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 6:56 pm to FlyingTiger06
Since I've been watching the program ((17 years), here's how I'd rank 'em........
1. Russel
2. Davey
3. Mettenberger
4. Flynn
5. Tyler
6. Mauck
7. Booty
8. Lee
9. Jefferson
1. Russel
2. Davey
3. Mettenberger
4. Flynn
5. Tyler
6. Mauck
7. Booty
8. Lee
9. Jefferson
Posted on 12/1/13 at 6:59 pm to lsualum96
Rohan and ZM are a toss up -- totally a matter of opinion.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 7:01 pm to lsualum96
quote:
7. Booty
8. Lee
9. Jefferson
Meh. JL nor JJ ever lost to UAB like Booty did, even though JL needed a huge comeback to beat Troy.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 7:03 pm to Powerman
quote:
It might be a decade before we see another QB that good at LSU
or it might be next year
Posted on 12/1/13 at 7:04 pm to mytigger
quote:
About where David Woodley ranks. Good, but not great.
Then statistically, LSU has never had a better than "good" QB.
Probably behind Rohan, tied with JR. Hard to gauge modern QB's against the QB's like Hodson and Jones.
Jones was the most gifted QB LSU ever had.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 7:06 pm to boxcar willie
Y is hodson always undervalued ?
Posted on 12/1/13 at 7:06 pm to LuckySo-n-So
quote:
Somewhere between 5-10.
This. Thread could have ended on the first post.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 7:09 pm to AreJay
quote:
Howd 1995 - 112/212, 1493 yds, 53% comp, 7.0 y/a, 121 RAT, 9 TD, 5 INT
Howd 1994 - 140/274, 1997 yds, 51% comp, 7.3 y/a, 116 RAT, 13 TD, 17 INT
Howd 1993 - 106/248, 1319 yds, 43% comp, 5.3 y/a, 87 RAT, 7 TD, 12 INT
Howd 1992 - 101/200, 1349 yds, 50% comp, 6.7 y/a, 102 RAT, 5 TD, 13 INT
I remember those year. Talk about some dark times at LSU. I remember they had to make him a special helmet because he kept getting concussions.
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