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Here are the facts about the SEC's bowl tie-ins & LSU's bowl chances
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:44 am
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:44 am
With so many posters predicting LSU will go to the Cotton Bowl and it will either be LSU or Texas A&M in the Cotton, here are the facts about the SEC's contractual bowl tie-ins.
LSU will likely finish the #6 "seed" in the SEC. Finishing above LSU will be Alabama, Auburn, Missouri, South Carolina and Georgia.
The SEC's bowl tie-in for the conference's #6 seed is the Gator Bowl vs. the Big 10's #4 seed.
The SEC's #5 seed goes to the Chick-Fil-A Bowl and for #7 it's the Music City Bowl.
The Capital One Bowl gets the SEC's #2 unless its #2 goes to a BCS bowl, in which case it gets to choose the SEC's #3 seed.
The Cotton Bowl gets the SEC's #3 or #4 depending on if the SEC's #1 is in the BCS Championship Game and its #2 is in a BCS bowl game.
Right now the SEC's #3 and #4 finishers will be either Auburn, Missouri, South Carolina or Georgia, depending on next week's results.
IMO, it is very optimistic (and unrealistic) to think the Cotton Bowl would drop all the way down to picking the SEC's #6 seed, LSU.
It sure as hell won't drop down to picking the SEC's #7 seed, Texas A&M, which might even be the #8 finisher in the SEC if they lose to Missouri next Saturday.
All bowl tie-ins for each conference
LSU will likely finish the #6 "seed" in the SEC. Finishing above LSU will be Alabama, Auburn, Missouri, South Carolina and Georgia.
The SEC's bowl tie-in for the conference's #6 seed is the Gator Bowl vs. the Big 10's #4 seed.
The SEC's #5 seed goes to the Chick-Fil-A Bowl and for #7 it's the Music City Bowl.
The Capital One Bowl gets the SEC's #2 unless its #2 goes to a BCS bowl, in which case it gets to choose the SEC's #3 seed.
The Cotton Bowl gets the SEC's #3 or #4 depending on if the SEC's #1 is in the BCS Championship Game and its #2 is in a BCS bowl game.
Right now the SEC's #3 and #4 finishers will be either Auburn, Missouri, South Carolina or Georgia, depending on next week's results.
IMO, it is very optimistic (and unrealistic) to think the Cotton Bowl would drop all the way down to picking the SEC's #6 seed, LSU.
It sure as hell won't drop down to picking the SEC's #7 seed, Texas A&M, which might even be the #8 finisher in the SEC if they lose to Missouri next Saturday.
All bowl tie-ins for each conference
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:46 am to LSURussian
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Right now the SEC's #3 and #4 finishers will be either Auburn, Missouri, South Carolina or Georgia, depending on next week's results.
Why is Bama left off this list? just curious.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:47 am to LSURussian
Conference standings aren't everything. A 3 loss lsu coming off of a big win is going to go ahead of a 4 loss Uga team
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:47 am to LSURussian
How is UGA ahead of LSU if they win out?
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:49 am to TigerFanNKaty
quote:Georgia owns the tie breaker vs LSU because if its head-to-head win over the Tigers.
How is UGA ahead of LSU if they win out?
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:51 am to LSURussian
Your facts are so off base it's a absurd. So much more goes into bowl selection. Some bowls prefer east teams vs west teams, where they played last year factors in, so basically your entire post is completely off base
This post was edited on 11/24/13 at 9:53 am
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:52 am to tigerfan in bamaland
quote:You're right. Mathematically Alabama could drop to #3. I'm assuming Alabama will beat Auburn making its worst possible finish as the SEC's #2 seed if it loses in the SECCG.
Right now the SEC's #3 and #4 finishers will be either Auburn, Missouri, South Carolina or Georgia, depending on next week's results.
Why is Bama left off this list? just curious.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:54 am to bee Rye
quote:"My" facts are based on the contractual agreements the SEC has with the various bowls.
Your facts are so off base it's a absurd.
What are your facts based on?
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:54 am to LSURussian
Bowls are only there to make money. Cotton would prefer a West team to put butts in the seats. No way they take USC or uga. Missouri probably goes to sugar, auburn to cap 1, uga to gator, USC to chick fila, lsu to cotton.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:55 am to bee Rye
Order of finish has nothing to do with what team goes where. The bowls pick in descending order, but they are not under any obligation to pick the team in that slot.
The Cotton could choose Vandy if they wanted, see them choosing A&M over us last year even though we had the same record and beat them head to head.
The Cotton could choose Vandy if they wanted, see them choosing A&M over us last year even though we had the same record and beat them head to head.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:55 am to LSURussian
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Georgia owns the tie breaker vs LSU because if its head-to-head win over the Tigers.
You talking in conference??? OK. But an 9-3 LSU looks like a much better match-up for someone than a 8-4 UGA team. I don't care what the tie-ins are.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:56 am to LSURussian
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i get what your saying but why do the experts say LSU goes to cotton. I could link a few bowl projections for you. Plus talk on the radio last night of LSU going to the cotton bowl.
but Georgia is not impressive at all why would a bowl pick them over us.
usually the seeds work this way because there is a hierarchy of bowl selections. LSU has a chance at the cotton.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:57 am to LSURussian
The only contractual obligation is the order on which the teams select, it has no bearing on which team they will select. You don't have a grasp on that concept apparently. The cotton can pick whoever it wants when it is it's turn to select so long as the school hasn't been selected by a bowl higher in the pecking order
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:57 am to LSURussian
I think all the powers that be are salivating for an LSU vs OK ST- and did Okie Cowboys shock the nation last night along with LSU shutting down JFF?
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:57 am to LSURussian
Cotton will not take an East team unless it is Missouri. Just like Outback only takes East teams unless west team is from state of Alabama. Bowls look at how teams will travel and attend games when all else is equal. I guarantee LSU will get the invite to the cotton over Georgia unless someone else has already taken LSU before cotton chooses.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:58 am to LSURussian
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LSU will likely finish the #6 "seed" in the SEC.
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IMO, it is very optimistic (and unrealistic) to think the Cotton Bowl would drop all the way down to picking the SEC's #6 seed, LSU.
You're looking at it from a strictly standings based approach, though. Realistically, we'd be tied with George for #5 with them having a tie breaker. But that doesn't actually come in to play for bowl selections, as was demonstrated last season. The last time the Cotton Bowl took an East division team was 2005.
Based on rankings, which is more important than standings, LSU will potentially finish with the 3rd highest ranking in the SEC West. The biggest thing standing in the way of LSU to the Cotton Bowl, in my opinion, is the SEC not getting two teams in a BCS bowl.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:00 am to LSURussian
just to prove my point
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this one above picked aTm to finish above LSU, but this is because this was yesterday morning.
from a week ago
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I could link more russian but its not so far fetched to believe we go to the cotton bowl. Most of the experts have us going there.
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this one above picked aTm to finish above LSU, but this is because this was yesterday morning.
from a week ago
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I could link more russian but its not so far fetched to believe we go to the cotton bowl. Most of the experts have us going there.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:01 am to catholictigerfan
quote:Are you referring to the same experts who last season said LSU was a lock to go to the Cotton Bowl???
i get what your saying but why do the experts say LSU goes to cotton.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:03 am to Wayne Campbell
quote:.....is Auburn, Missouri or South Carolina.
The biggest thing standing in the way of LSU to the Cotton Bowl....
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:05 am to catholictigerfan
I'm telling everyone now, if Missouri goes to the SEC championship and loses it will go to the Cotton. Auburn will get Capitol One.
Just like A&M last year, Missouri has ties to the Big 12. The location isn't too far off either and it would make for a good matchup against a potential team like Baylor/Texas.
If the Cotton takes Missouri that opens a spot in the SEC East tie-in like the Outback or Gator.
Just like A&M last year, Missouri has ties to the Big 12. The location isn't too far off either and it would make for a good matchup against a potential team like Baylor/Texas.
If the Cotton takes Missouri that opens a spot in the SEC East tie-in like the Outback or Gator.
This post was edited on 11/24/13 at 10:07 am
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