re: Here are the facts about the SEC's bowl tie-ins & LSU's bowl chances

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Based on rankings, which is more important than standings, LSU will potentially finish with the 3rd highest ranking in the SEC West. The biggest thing standing in the way of LSU to the Cotton Bowl, in my opinion, is the SEC not getting two teams in a BCS bowl.

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Sound thoughts, if it comes down to UGA and LSU to the Cotton don't see how Cotton chooses UGA when all factors are considered and loosing Murray for the season is definitely one of the factors as to how competitive UGA will be. We will see against GT this weekend but you can expect a healthy diet of Gurley and does that get anyone on the Cotton Bowl committee excited. SI " we all know about how good they are" has LSU going to Cotton Bowl right now.

If LSU comes out and takes care of business against Ark in impressive fashion and the rest of the chips fall where they may, Bama beats AU, Bama beats Mizz, Mizz beats A&M & AU goes to Sugar unless Bama stomps them. LSU to Cotton seems realistic.

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Also this was included in the article regarding who Bowls have to pick;

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Most bowls are not obligated -- I repeat, NOT OBLIGATED -- to choose in exact order of conference standings. For instance, "Big 12 No. 3" means "third selection of Big 12 teams," not "the Big 12's third-place team." Bowls often pick a team with an inferior record due to geography, anticipated fan travel, the need to avoid a regular-season rematch or good old backroom politicking.

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You're using the word "seeding", but that has little to do with it. Those are the #s at which a bowl picks. They face a little pressure, but are under no obligation to pick solely based on Conference rankings.


I'm going to hold out hope for:

LSU/Texas in the Cotton OR
LSU/Michigan in the Gator Bowl

If either Bowl (or the SEC) gets to set up those matchups, they will.

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You're using the word "seeding", but that has little to do with it.

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Germans, man....GERMANS!

The BR paper this morning had some good info on the bowl commitments.
For example, this year the Cotton Bowl is the 'fail safe' bowl for the loser of the SECCG guaranteeing the loser will not fall below the Cotton if the Sugar, Outback and Capital One Bowls don't take the SECCG loser.

ETA: Here is that entire scenario:

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This year, the potential road block is the fact that the Cotton is contractually obligated to take the loser of the SEC Championship Game if it’s passed over as a BCS at-large team or the Capital One. Once every four years, the Cap One, Outback, Chick-fil-A and Cotton have to take turns as the “Safety Net Bowl.” And this year, it’s the Cotton’s turn, according to SEC and former LSU spokesman Herb Vincent.

No way that happens, you say. Well, how about this scenario: Missouri loses Saturday to Texas A&M, putting South Carolina in the SEC Championship Game at 9-3 despite a nonconference loss by the Gamecocks on Saturday to archrival Clemson. South Carolina then gets hammered by Alabama (assuming a win over Auburn in the Iron Bowl) in Atlanta.

Under that scenario, Alabama is 13-0 and BCS championship game-bound. Missouri and Auburn are both 10-2, with one likely headed to the Sugar Bowl and the other likely to the Cap One. The Outback could pick 9-4 South Carolina, but it prefers LSU or Texas A&M at 9-3. That leaves the Cotton to save a seat for the Gamecocks.

Such a scenario could put LSU back in the Chick-fil-A Bowl for the second straight year and the sixth time since 1996, which would be the most bowl appearances for LSU in any postseason game in that time span. Some national projections have that happening, but everyone intimately involved with the process seems to be aware of the lukewarm response LSU fans had to the Chick-fil-A last year. They might be downright cold to the idea if the opponent out of the ACC was Duke.

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I'm not reading the whole thread but from what I've seen, the fact being overlooked is this: there's now an sec east team (mizzou) that's located in the west. This is the first time an sec east team could be more attractive to the cotton than an sec west team. Likewise the eastern bowl games would probably prefer an auburn over mizzou just based on lacation. So the trend of outback taking a top eastern and cotton taking the top west team is shot to pieces. Things could get crazy this year and no doubt will end up with LSU getting hosed again.

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Your facts are so off base it's a absurd. So much more goes into bowl selection. Some bowls prefer east teams vs west teams, where they played last year factors in, so basically your entire post is completely off base

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This. LSU was screwed last year.

except apparentyl none of that matters, as the Cotton bowl does what it wants (see last year)

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LSU versus Duke in the chick fil a bowl

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Last year LSU sold only around 12K of the 17K tickets that the school was forced to purchase. As a result, LSU had to eat the other 5K and lost money. If the CFA Bowl is stupid enough to pick us again, LSU needs to be prepared to lose even more money than last year, because we would have an even worse fan turnout if we end up playing Duke.