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Did Les choke down the offense in second half??

Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:20 am
Posted by allsports34
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:20 am
Jimbo Fisher made statements when he left that when the game got tight Les took over or over ruled play calling. Yep someone heard this or someone heard that doesn't mean anyone knows what goes on inside LSU football. but for the naked eye the offense got very conservative after the 17-17 point. Run, Run, pass...Defense pinning them back and coming after Met on 3rd. Everyone knows our defense is going to give up the points, shouldn't we try to keep up with our offense?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:22 am to
bad offense = Miles

good offense = Cam

I love the rant
Posted by LSU91MBA
Houston
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:24 am to
No --- Alabama's D-Line began dominating our O-Line -- giving our QB no time and thus our receivers MAY have been open, but we could not effectively get the ball to them consistently.

If anything, we became one dementional --- all pass and Bama just teed off on our O-line.

So, man we got beat by one of the best teams in the country --- it ain't the end of the world.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:25 am to
quote:

Run, Run, pass...


By the third quarter, it was obvious that our defense was not able to stop Bama's run game, and Bama had started to squash the running out of the I formation. Yet for some reason, LSU kept running the ball on first and second down out of the I formation, leading to many 3rd and 7 or more situations. After LSU got the ball trailing 24-17, it should have been obvious that LSU's best chance to win was to outscore Bama, but Les countinued to try and once again win a 9-6 game. Les' inability to adjust to the flow of the game is frustrating.
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:26 am to
quote:

No --- Alabama's D-Line began dominating our O-Line -- giving our QB no time and thus our receivers MAY have been open, but we could not effectively get the ball to them consistently.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:28 am to
22 rush attempts
23 pass attempts

but yeah, all LSU did was run the ball
Posted by guttata
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:29 am to
Nope, Either Cam or Bama dictated what LSU did on offense
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:30 am to
quote:

22 rush attempts
23 pass attempts

but yeah, all LSU did was run the ball




The Les haters are so set in their ways that they won't be bothered with actual facts.
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:32 am to
quote:

bad offense = Miles

good offense = Cam

I love the ran

Actually it used to be Bad defense = Miles, Good defense = Chavis too.
But I do think Miles takes the air out of the offense.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:33 am to
So where were the screen passes?

The quick slants?

ANYTHING to neutralize an aggressive defense.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:33 am to
We will never know, because nobody in authority cares enough to pose the question and demand an answer.

Don't you get it? LSU is happy with Coach Miles as coach. Things are fine.

You care a lot more about that game than do the folks who run the University, I assure you.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:33 am to
quote:

So where were the screen passes?

The quick slants?

ANYTHING to neutralize an aggressive defense.


Ask Cam?
Posted by Hoodatt
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:34 am to
No. They adjusted to what we were doing, which had been working. The inability of our D to stop them did not help our cause for trying to play catch-up from farther and farther from behind. Les IS the Head coach and accepts the blame for the loss. So do you think on 3rd down Les called the play where the OL doesn't block? UA's front 7 kept our OLine confused much of the night. The UA DL did their job of occupying our OL so the LBs could rush through. Mett just didn't get the best check downs. I'll confess, it's a lot easier to see it and call it from the couch.
Posted by TDTGodfather
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:38 am to
quote:

Jimbo Fisher made statements when he left that when the game got tight Les took over or over ruled play calling.

link?


quote:

Run, Run, pass...

1st down plays in 2nd half
Z. Mettenberger crossing pass complete to Jarvis Landry for 10 yards to the LS35, 1ST DOWN LS (Denzel Devall).

Jeremy Hill rush over left tackle for 5 yards to the LS40 (Trey DePriest;C.J. Mosley).

Z. Mettenberger LF pass complete to Terrence Magee for 2 yards to the 50 yardline (Deion Belue).

Jeremy Hill rush over right end for loss of 3 yards to the UA21 (Landon Collins;C.J. Mosley).


Z. Mettenberger RF pass complete to Jeremy Hill for 20 yards to the 50 yardline, 1ST DOWN LS (J. Williams).



was a called pass Z. Mettenberger rush up middle for no gain to the 50 yardline (Denzel Devall;C.J. Mosley).



LSU had only four 2nd downs in the 2nd half and two were rushes and two were passes.




but perpetuating the same old bullshite and selective memory is fun isn't it??
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 8:40 am
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:38 am to
quote:

LSU kept running the ball on first and second down out of the I formation, leading to many 3rd and 7 or more situations. After LSU got the ball trailing 24-17, it should have been obvious that LSU's best chance to win was to outscore Bama, but Les countinued to try and once again win a 9-6 game. Les' inability to adjust to the flow of the game is frustrating.


After we tied it at 17 we had 3 more possesions.

On first down we called passing plays 4 times, running plays twice.

On second down we called 2 passing plays and 2 running plays.

The offense had to score every possesion of the second half for us to have a chance. Alabama controlled the ball about 20 of the remaining 26 minutes after the score was tied at 17. Offensive playcalling wasn't the problem. The defense unable to get off the field was. The game was over after Alabama converted the fake punt.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:39 am to
quote:

After we tied it at 17 we had 3 more possesions.

On first down we called passing plays 4 times, running plays twice.

On second down we called 2 passing plays and 2 running plays.


Impossible
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:39 am to
blah blah blah facts meh
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:41 am to
quote:

The game was over after Alabama converted the fake punt.


Agreed
Posted by TDTGodfather
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:41 am to
quote:

After we tied it at 17 we had 3 more possesions.

On first down we called passing plays 4 times, running plays twice.

On second down we called 2 passing plays and 2 running plays.

The offense had to score every possesion of the second half for us to have a chance. Alabama controlled the ball about 20 of the remaining 26 minutes after the score was tied at 17. Offensive playcalling wasn't the problem. The defense unable to get off the field was. The game was over after Alabama converted the fake punt.

exactly.

like i posted above yours.

4 passes vs 2 rushes on 1st and people are still ignorant

2nd downs were 2 rushes vs 2 passes.

balance.

not even fair to compare 3rd down bc they're passing down but they would further the point
Posted by TiegerTim
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Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:43 am to
quote:

On first down we called passing plays 4 times, running plays twice. On second down we called 2 passing plays and 2 running plays.
so we had 6 first downs but only 4 second downs?
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