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re: Did Les choke down the offense in second half??
Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:44 am to TDTGodfather
Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:44 am to TDTGodfather
It's all about the O line and D lines of LSU and Bama
They are bigger, stronger, faster, and have a much better scheme on both sides.
They are bigger, stronger, faster, and have a much better scheme on both sides.
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 8:45 am
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:45 am to TiegerTim
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so we had 6 first downs but only 4 second downs?
Yes, we gained a first down on 2 first downs.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:46 am to TheDoc
Has cam made any comments on the game, game plan, adjustments, etc. just curious
Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:58 am to Salmon
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22 rush attempts
23 pass attempts
but yeah, all LSU did was run the ball
I realize you were probably drunk and do not remember the game, but I wasn't drinking, and I watched the game closely. The stats are balanced more because of the passing attempts on the last two drives as the game was getting out of reach. The absolute worst play call of the night was the toss lead for negative yards on the first play following the ODB kickoff return, and the toss lead is all Les Miles, and that is a fact.
Watch the replay tomorrow night and notice how many times we ran the ball out of the I formation on 2nd down and how it turned into a 3rd and long. We had good success running the ball early in the game, but by the end of the second quarter, the running game from the I formation was getting stuffed.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:59 am to Mobiletiger
Alabama made adjustments. We did not.
They blitzed Mett more in the second half, stopped playing zone, and decided to put more pressure and pounding on our defense by running the ball more.
LSU only got the ball four times in the second half and each possession (minus the field goal at the beginning of the 3rd) was unproductive.
They blitzed Mett more in the second half, stopped playing zone, and decided to put more pressure and pounding on our defense by running the ball more.
LSU only got the ball four times in the second half and each possession (minus the field goal at the beginning of the 3rd) was unproductive.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:00 am to Choupique19
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The absolute worst play call of the night was the toss lead for negative yards on the first play following the ODB kickoff return, and the toss lead is all Les Miles, and that is a fact.
You mean that play that gained 3-4 yards every other time it was run?
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:01 am to Choupique19
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I realize you were probably drunk and do not remember the game, but I wasn't drinking, and I watched the game closely. The stats are balanced more because of the passing attempts on the last two drives as the game was getting out of reach. The absolute worst play call of the night was the toss lead for negative yards on the first play following the ODB kickoff return, and the toss lead is all Les Miles, and that is a fact.
Watch the replay tomorrow night and notice how many times we ran the ball out of the I formation on 2nd down and how it turned into a 3rd and long. We had good success running the ball early in the game, but by the end of the second quarter, the running game from the I formation was getting stuffed.
Didn't bother to read the drive recaps for the second half huh? But don't let that get in the way of a good Miles bashing, huh?
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:02 am to Choupique19
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Les' inability to adjust to the flow of the game is frustrating.
I couldn't agree with you more.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:04 am to Salmon
quote:There is no way Cam was repeatedly calling toss dives on 2nd and long, no effing way. That is Miles all the way. You know how to tell? We've been doing that stupid stuff for years. has Cam been at LSU doing that for years? run up the middle on 2nd and long, 3rd and long, and even 4th and long IS LES MILES. for g's sake, we ran a fb dive on 4th and long (before Cam was here).
bad offense = Miles
good offense = Cam
I love the rant
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:05 am to EarthwormJim
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After we tied it at 17 we had 3 more possesions.
On first down we called passing plays 4 times, running plays twice.
On second down we called 2 passing plays and 2 running plays.
Good stuff
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The offense had to score every possesion of the second half for us to have a chance. Alabama controlled the ball about 20 of the remaining 26 minutes after the score was tied at 17. Offensive playcalling wasn't the problem. The defense unable to get off the field was. The game was over after Alabama converted the fake punt.
Why did LSU's offensive philosphy not take this into account? Anybody with a brain knew that our defense was going to be in big trouble that night. As the game progressed, I kept posting this on the "score board" that our defense can't stop them, we have to be more aggressive on offense. What is Bama's weakness, their secondary. Our best shot at winning was putting a lot of points on the board, and to do that we needed to be testing their secondary, not their front 7.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:06 am to TiegerTim
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so we had 6 first downs but only 4 second downs?
i know crazy that a miles offense actually got two first down on first downs....
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:07 am to MFn GIMP
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You mean that play that gained 3-4 yards every other time it was run?
I would like to see a break down of this. Maybe in the first quarter, but not as the game wore on.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:09 am to TDTGodfather
Thanks for actually using FACTS to refute the pre-conceived notions of those on here who have no use for them, TDTGodfather.
One thing I'm having trouble grasping--- you list 6 1st down plays, and then say "LSU had only four 2nd downs in the 2nd half and two were rushes and two were passes"....
Oh wait. Two were passes for another 1st down. Nevermind.
One thing I'm having trouble grasping--- you list 6 1st down plays, and then say "LSU had only four 2nd downs in the 2nd half and two were rushes and two were passes"....
Oh wait. Two were passes for another 1st down. Nevermind.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:10 am to Choupique19
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Why did LSU's offensive philosphy not take this into account? Anybody with a brain knew that our defense was going to be in big trouble that night
I think you nailed it. I believe this has been the reason for every loss this season. If it continues TA&M is a loss if changed we win the A&M game.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:12 am to LNCHBOX
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After we tied it at 17 we had 3 more possesions.
On first down we called passing plays 4 times, running plays twice.
On second down we called 2 passing plays and 2 running plays.
Impossible
Hey, that's what I thought, too---but we're overlooking that twice the 1st down pass picked up another 1st....DOH!
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:50 am to Choupique19
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The absolute worst play call of the night was the toss lead for negative yards on the first play following the ODB kickoff return, and the toss lead is all Les Miles, and that is a fact.
Watch the replay tomorrow night and notice how many times we ran the ball out of the I formation on 2nd down and how it turned into a 3rd and long. We had good success running the ball early in the game, but by the end of the second quarter, the running game from the I formation was getting stuffed.
This!
The Gump fans that were sitting all around me in the LSU section were surprised and soo gratefull for this they were even snickering while I was crying for any type of diverse play there.
Guess they were all CLM haters too like some of us?
Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:00 am to Choupique19
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Yet for some reason, LSU kept running the ball on first and second down out of the I formation, leading to many 3rd and 7 or more situations.
This is what frustrates me to no end. What is our obsession with running out of the I formation? Why don't we spread the defense out and run between the tackles? Whenever the OL gets in that bunch formation, you know it's gonna be a run up the middle. Everybody in the place can tell what the play's gonna be by the formation we are in. We were having some success running Magee on the outside, but then we suddenly stopped doing that.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:06 am to TDTGodfather
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1st down plays in 2nd half
Z. Mettenberger crossing pass complete to Jarvis Landry for 10 yards to the LS35, 1ST DOWN LS (Denzel Devall).
Jeremy Hill rush over left tackle for 5 yards to the LS40 (Trey DePriest;C.J. Mosley).
Z. Mettenberger LF pass complete to Terrence Magee for 2 yards to the 50 yardline (Deion Belue).
Jeremy Hill rush over right end for loss of 3 yards to the UA21 (Landon Collins;C.J. Mosley).
Z. Mettenberger RF pass complete to Jeremy Hill for 20 yards to the 50 yardline, 1ST DOWN LS (J. Williams).
was a called pass Z. Mettenberger rush up middle for no gain to the 50 yardline (Denzel Devall;C.J. Mosley).
4 passing plays for an average of 8 yards per play.
2 running plays for an average of 1 yard per play.
So Miles averaged 1 yard and Cam averaged 8.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:23 am to Salmon
Stop it, real statistics are not allowed on the rant. It might lead to actual thinking. 
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