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idea for a utility trailer.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 10/29/13 at 4:18 pm
mopar sells these utility and camper trailers for jeeps. they're about 10k
i've got a scrambler project that i abandoned that's just collecting dust in my shop. i want to cut the tub and frame and build one of these or something like it.
here's my quandary: i wanted to use a used dana 44 axle so it would match my jeep's axles (and look petty cool). should i remove the ring and pinion? or should i just leave them in 'til the gears go out? should i just weld a plate on the ends and go with hub and bearing assy? can that handle a 35" tire?
i've got a scrambler project that i abandoned that's just collecting dust in my shop. i want to cut the tub and frame and build one of these or something like it.
here's my quandary: i wanted to use a used dana 44 axle so it would match my jeep's axles (and look petty cool). should i remove the ring and pinion? or should i just leave them in 'til the gears go out? should i just weld a plate on the ends and go with hub and bearing assy? can that handle a 35" tire?
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 4:27 pm to DLauw
What in the frick?
Posted on 10/29/13 at 4:31 pm to DLauw
I love shite like this 
I'm sure the axle would be fine as is. Axles go for hundreds of thousands of miles with no issues while dealing with being driven, not just dragged along. I would think that it'd be fine as is. It'd take a longgggggg time to put 100k on a trailer.
Hub and bearing would work and you could make it handle the big tire if you built it right of course. I like the idea of leaving it as-is more though.
*Disclaimer: I am not at fault for whatever you do with this opinion*
I'm sure the axle would be fine as is. Axles go for hundreds of thousands of miles with no issues while dealing with being driven, not just dragged along. I would think that it'd be fine as is. It'd take a longgggggg time to put 100k on a trailer.
Hub and bearing would work and you could make it handle the big tire if you built it right of course. I like the idea of leaving it as-is more though.
*Disclaimer: I am not at fault for whatever you do with this opinion*
Posted on 10/29/13 at 4:32 pm to Broke
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What in the frick?
This.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 4:35 pm to DLauw
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utility trailer.
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10k
Posted on 10/29/13 at 4:36 pm to DLauw
Cut the frame and use everything for the trailer. Maybe you could put new springs if you wanted, but I'd just leave everything like it was.
Putting a D44 on it would be a waste of money IMHO.
Putting a D44 on it would be a waste of money IMHO.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 4:37 pm to Hammertime
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Putting a D44 on it would be a waste of money
I agree with this. I'd just buy and axle and make a fake chunk to put on it, but that's far less interesting and fun.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 4:45 pm to DLauw
quote:You trollin' us?
DLauw
Posted on 10/29/13 at 5:04 pm to DonChowder
no trolling here.
im serious as shite.
the scrambler is totally torn down. body is off. i was in the midst of a total restore/mod build. i've got 2 1/2 inch YJ springs already and 2 14 bolt full floaters for trade. i think the dana would cool as shite with a matching diff cover.
the brake lights are already there, the spring perches are there, i've got the frame, all i'd have to do is weld up the tongue. i need sheet metal to close in the front of the bed and some wheels and tires and of course the dana 44.
ETA Jeep trail trailers by MOPAR
im serious as shite.
the scrambler is totally torn down. body is off. i was in the midst of a total restore/mod build. i've got 2 1/2 inch YJ springs already and 2 14 bolt full floaters for trade. i think the dana would cool as shite with a matching diff cover.
the brake lights are already there, the spring perches are there, i've got the frame, all i'd have to do is weld up the tongue. i need sheet metal to close in the front of the bed and some wheels and tires and of course the dana 44.
ETA Jeep trail trailers by MOPAR
This post was edited on 10/29/13 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 10/29/13 at 5:07 pm to DLauw
Cut the chunk out of a junkyard 44 and weld it to a regular trailer axle 
I'm thinking the gears in that thing will be more than able to handle a good many miles
I'm thinking the gears in that thing will be more than able to handle a good many miles
Posted on 10/29/13 at 5:11 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
i've got a 44 but it's a front axle narrowed for jeep/scout and matches my 14 bolt C&C. i guess i could just use it and remove the tubes and axles and weld in pipe and hub and bearing assy's
This post was edited on 10/29/13 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 10/29/13 at 5:23 pm to Hammertime
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Putting a D44 on it would be a waste of money IMHO.
not necessarily. Tires/wheels would be interchangable with your jeep, if you left the shafts in the axle you could swap them out when you snap one.
IMO, its a great idea
This post was edited on 10/29/13 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 10/29/13 at 5:41 pm to shawnlsu
quote:i thought about this too.
in the axle you could swap them out when you snap one
Posted on 10/29/13 at 5:44 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:Doesn't work like that. Can't put a 14 bolt differential into a 10 bolt housing. You'd basically have to weld up a new housing to fit the 44 in there. If a 44 is a must have, it needs to be a 44 axle.
Cut the chunk out of a junkyard 44 and weld it to a regular trailer axle
I'd take the gears out of a broken 44 and run a solid axleshaft all of the way through with d44 hubs so it wouldn't drag
quote:and then what do you mount your trailer tire to when you take out the axle/hub?
if you left the shafts in the axle you could swap them out when you snap one
Eta: unless you have a full floating rear D44
This post was edited on 10/29/13 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 10/29/13 at 7:16 pm to DLauw
That is great idea.
Those trailers are an assload of money.
Using the Jeep axle means your spare would fit as well,
Those trailers are an assload of money.
Using the Jeep axle means your spare would fit as well,
Posted on 10/29/13 at 10:26 pm to VetteGuy
I can get the spare off the back of the jeep and have an even greater entry angle. I can't fit a 35' on the back with the current bumper I have anyway. I just think I could make it a badass little 6' trailer to carry camping gear , cook ware, bikes, shovel, jack, ice chests, etc. without compromising the limited room I have in the jeep for personel and such.
I think I'm going to go with a full width Dana 44 and run stock gear in it for a while just to see how I like the looks of it. If need be, I'll swap it out later. I'm going to remove the yoke and just let the threads and nut spin.
Anyway, it's decided and I shall begin working on it next week. I'll keep y'all posted with some photos.
I think I'm going to go with a full width Dana 44 and run stock gear in it for a while just to see how I like the looks of it. If need be, I'll swap it out later. I'm going to remove the yoke and just let the threads and nut spin.
Anyway, it's decided and I shall begin working on it next week. I'll keep y'all posted with some photos.
This post was edited on 10/29/13 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 10/29/13 at 11:32 pm to Hammertime
You're overthinking what I was saying.
Take your basic old standard trailer axle. Take a cut out D44 diff, and hack it to where you can put it over the axle for cosmetic purposes.
Take your basic old standard trailer axle. Take a cut out D44 diff, and hack it to where you can put it over the axle for cosmetic purposes.
Posted on 10/30/13 at 8:07 am to DLauw
You're going to cut down a SCRAMBLER body to build a fricking utility trailer?
Posted on 10/30/13 at 8:14 am to Teague
buying old military trailers and fixing them up is cheaper and they are pretty cool
Posted on 10/30/13 at 9:03 am to DLauw
quote:
Anyway, it's decided and I shall begin working on it next week. I'll keep y'all posted with some photos.
I looked into buying one, even an old military trailer. $$$$
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