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Lottery winnings

Posted on 10/15/13 at 7:58 pm
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41611 posts
Posted on 10/15/13 at 7:58 pm
Tomorrow's Powerball jackpot, after taxes, would be worth approximately $62,440,000 in Louisiana if only one person wins the jackpot and if that winner takes the lump sum.

With that much money, what would one do with it? Seriously, where does one even put that kind of money? Is there some obscure type of account that only the mega-rich can invest with that allows that kind of money to be insured?
Seems as though this kind of money would create more problems than it would solve.
Would you just have to "gift" a lot of it away in order to protect you from outrageous taxes?

I can only dream of winning this kind of money but if I ever do win this amount of money, I have no idea what I would do. I know one thing and one thing only: I'd first seek out the best financial professional that money could buy. Second: I'll tell the wife.
After that, I have no earthly idea!
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85040 posts
Posted on 10/15/13 at 8:09 pm to
That's what CPAs are for.
This post was edited on 10/15/13 at 8:13 pm
Posted by 1609tiger
Member since Feb 2011
3230 posts
Posted on 10/15/13 at 8:11 pm to
I would put 60 percent in tax free bonds, 20 in stocks and 20 percent in alternatives, real estate, etc. why take risks when you could generate 2.5 million per year, mostly tax free!
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41611 posts
Posted on 10/15/13 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

You would only be taxed on the capital gains from the investments. $62M is yours to spend (sales tax only).

Right, but wouldn't you have a ton of taxes to pay on the income that $62M earns you? I would think that "gifting" some of it away via starting college scholarship funds or something else like that would offset a good bit of those taxes.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17259 posts
Posted on 10/15/13 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

You would only be taxed on the capital gains from the investments. $62M is yours to spend (sales tax only). The taxes are done in terms of income on that money. You could just keep the cash and try to spend $1M/year for the rest of your life. But you may want to leave some behind. Taxes could take it then, but any CPA should know how to avoid most of those.


Negative, you pay income tax on the full amount
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41611 posts
Posted on 10/15/13 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

Negative, you pay income tax on the full amount

Because technically, those winnings are "income" according to the IRS, no?
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17259 posts
Posted on 10/15/13 at 8:16 pm to
Yes it is considered income, on the bright side you could deduct the $2 you spent to buy the ticket
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85040 posts
Posted on 10/15/13 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

Negative, you pay income tax on the full amount
I meant after that first year you pay income taxes. This is why I edited. Knew I would sound ignorant after re-reading.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17259 posts
Posted on 10/15/13 at 8:19 pm to
But it looks like you have already accounted for the income tax hit

Tomorrow's jackpot is156 million if taken as an annuity
If cash it would be reduced to89.2 million and 60% (rough est of fed and state income taxes) is 53.5 million
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17259 posts
Posted on 10/15/13 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

I meant after that first year you pay income taxes. This is why I edited. Knew I would sound ignorant after re-reading.


Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 10/15/13 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

With that much money, what would one do with it? Seriously, where does one even put that kind of money? Is there some obscure type of account that only the mega-rich can invest with that allows that kind of money to be insured?



well, if you have ask.....


quote:

Seems as though this kind of money would create more problems than it would solve.



ha, would solve just about every single problem i have.

quote:

Second: I'll tell the wife.


sucker.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41611 posts
Posted on 10/15/13 at 8:23 pm to
quote:

If cash it would be reduced to89.2 million and 60% (rough est of fed and state income taxes) is 53.5 million

After tax winnings in Louisiana

Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/15/13 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

if I ever do win this amount of money, I have no idea what I would do


You can give some to me.
Posted by Doink
Greatna
Member since Sep 2012
413 posts
Posted on 10/15/13 at 9:17 pm to
Set up a trust and take care of any estate tax issues in the first year of the winnings. Set up a loan agreement using a fixed product and collect another stream of tax free income years later. Live large and travel the world.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:10 am to
1. Hire Poodlebrain
2. Whatever I want
3. ?????
4. Profit
Posted by PSU2LSU
Oxford MS
Member since Apr 2011
3144 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 7:02 am to
When you come into that kind of money your goal is not to become richer with investments but its to stay rich.

I would invest in municipal bonds which are tax free and fairly low risk.
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
4696 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 9:37 am to
Id buy a ton of class 1 farmland and rent it out. I would just have a landlord office where I drank coffee and BS'd all day. maybe half a day
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
6141 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 9:46 am to
My advice...

Hire a CPA, Tax Attorney and Financial advisor. Have them all meet together to discuss the best possible tax savings and investment strategies.
Posted by NBR_Exile
Houston via Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
956 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 10:05 am to
Taxes are a fact of life. There are ways to mitigate the "burden". That's what good CPA's and Financial Advisors do for a living. Find good help and enjoy your income FTW!
Posted by iwasthere
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2010
1880 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:17 am to
That site isn't exactly accurate. There is a WSJ article on this. The taxes on the income will be higher unless you put the money into certain things to lower your tax burden. That is why you get a Poodlebrain.

This post was edited on 10/16/13 at 11:19 am
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