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No beer? Federal shutdown hurts La. craft brewers

Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:48 am
Posted by Glock17
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Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:48 am
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The beer is brewed and ready to go.

But it will sit in kegs, unavailable for drinking, because of the federal government shutdown, Karlos Knott said Wednesday.

Knott is one of Louisiana’s craft brewers waiting for permission from an obscure federal agency whose employees were sent home, indefinitely and without pay, after Democrats and Republicans in Washington, D.C., could not agree on how to fund the government.
Posted by bbrou33
Big Apple, NY
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/10/13 at 10:03 am to
While at Parish last night Andrew got a phone call from someone at WBRZ asking him about it.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52796 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 10:24 am to
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“I submitted this label months ago,” Knott said. “I thought we had plenty of time.”


You would think the TTB could approve a label in a matter of months.

Seems like a deregulation is in order to free up business to do what it does best. Produce a product and make money.
Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
22388 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 10:27 am to
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You would think the TTB could approve a label in a matter of months.

Seems like a deregulation is in order to free up business to do what it does best. Produce a product and make money.



You'd think so... I can't believe there's some gov agency who has to approve something as small as a beer label.
Posted by bbrou33
Big Apple, NY
Member since Oct 2011
7164 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 10:32 am to
Not sure if y'all receive the Blackwell's newsletter. But yesterday's just so happened to include this. Doesn't deal with Federal shutdown. But label approval

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First things first, this week saw the arrival of the beer that almost wasn’t. Of course I’m talking about Firestone Walker Velvet Merkin. Initially, the guys at FSW received approval for the label/name of this beer ages ago from the TTB, but someone over there noticed what the beer was actually called and decided to rescind the original ok for the label. So, this beer has quietly been living the lonely life of a draft beer until finally FSW convinced the TTB that their beer wasn’t meant to conjure images of unsavory 70’s cinematography…
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 10:41 am to
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You would think the TTB could approve a label in a matter of months.


Used to only be a matter of a couple weeks until our wonderful govt started acting like a daycare full of whiny children with shitty diapers.

Less government, More beer!
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21122 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 10:45 am to
The crazy thing to me is the lack of a timetable. When a brewery submits a label it could take a week or a month, no one knows.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 10:47 am to
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Seems like a deregulation is in order to free up business to do what it does best. Produce a product and make money.


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You'd think so... I can't believe there's some gov agency who has to approve something as small as a beer label.


I can believe it. Have you seen the people in charge in Washington these days? The increase in regulation across all industries is mind-boggling. Helps lawyers and bureaucrats .. harms businesses all over the country. Brilliant.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 10:51 am to
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The crazy thing to me is the lack of a timetable. When a brewery submits a label it could take a week or a month, no one knows.


Agreed... I have no clue how a business supposed to plan around this. I guess you'd have to get label approval before you even brew the beer?

I still don't know what a brewery does if you put an ABV on your label and your beer over attenuates and you end up with a higher ABV. I guess you just water it down??
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21122 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 10:58 am to
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Posted by LSUGrad00 quote: The crazy thing to me is the lack of a timetable. When a brewery submits a label it could take a week or a month, no one knows. Agreed... I have no clue how a business supposed to plan around this. I guess you'd have to get label approval before you even brew the beer? I still don't know what a brewery does if you put an ABV on your label and your beer over attenuates and you end up with a higher ABV. I guess you just water it down??


Actually, they have to submit the beer to a lab as well.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52796 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 11:06 am to
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Actually, they have to submit the beer to a lab as well.


I understand some regulation, to ensure it is safe for public consumption. But ensuring that a label is safe from public offending is absurd.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52796 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 11:08 am to
I'm curious how Tool gets approval. I'd assume they skip the label approval process.



Personally, i feel if you must be 21 to buy beer, then you are grown up enough to read a cuss word.

However, I, personally, wouldn't do it on a beer label. Has more to do with class than "offending" anyone.
This post was edited on 10/10/13 at 11:10 am
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21122 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 11:15 am to
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Actually, they have to submit the beer to a lab as well. I understand some regulation, to ensure it is safe for public consumption. But ensuring that a label is safe from public offending is absurd.



i was talking to the owner of the mississippi brewing company in gulfport a few months ago and he told me they had to send their beer to a labortory in colorado before they could begin to sell it.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38691 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 11:17 am to
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I understand some regulation, to ensure it is safe for public consumption. But ensuring that a label is safe from public offending is absurd.


The Pro-Biz(haha)State of Texas has to approve the label too.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
15945 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 11:20 am to
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Personally, i feel if you must be 21 to buy beer, then you are grown up enough to read a cuss word. However, I, personally, wouldn't do it on a beer label. Has more to do with class than "offending" anyone.


I'm more offended by obscene beer than an obscene label
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
15945 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 11:20 am to
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The Pro-Biz(haha)State of Texas has to approve the label too.


That's why our Deschutes hits the shelves so much later than the rest of the free world.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38691 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 11:24 am to
This must have been a planned media blitz by the Craft Brewers. The exact same article was in my local paper this morning but focused on DfW brewers.

LINK
Posted by JimMorrison
The Peninsula
Member since May 2012
20747 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 11:58 am to
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I can't believe there's some gov agency who has to approve something as small as a beer label.


I deal with imports/exports and you'd be surprised how important a label can be to the government since it's listing what that product contains. That's also why the beer has to be lab tested before it's allowed to be distributed.

Most of this craft beer probably doesn't make it out of the country but they still regulate it because the product does cross state lines.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 12:40 pm to
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The Pro-Biz(haha)State of Texas has to approve the label too.


A rep from New Belgium was telling me about some of the hoops they have to jump through for the TABC... Absolutely Crazy!!
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 1:02 pm to
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This must have been a planned media blitz by the Craft Brewers. The exact same article was in my local paper this morning but focused on DfW brewers.


I heard an interview on BBC Radio yesterday with an up and coming brewery. So I would have to agree.
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