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Penn State to get back scholarships

Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:36 am
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:36 am
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The NCAA has decided to reduce the historic penalties against Penn State, returning some of the 20 annual football scholarships that were forfeited under the sanctions handed down in July 2012 because of the university leadership's lack of action regarding the Jerry Sandusky child sexual abuse matter.

"Beginning next academic year [2014-15], five additional initial scholarships will be restored to the university's football team," Penn State said in a release Tuesday. "This amount will continue to increase until they reach the full allocation of 25 initial in 2015-16 and 85 total football scholarships in 2016-17."


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This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 11:37 am
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25239 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:38 am to
Not sure how I feel about this.

I miss PSU being relevant, but I also am opposed to child fricking.
Posted by iDominate
Member since Sep 2013
51 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:40 am to
It was the right move... PSU got the shaft
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112338 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:40 am to
Are all the people under that whole regime gone?

Always Seemed a little pointless to me to punish football players and coaches that had nothing to do with all that that went down


Unless Penn State kept some of the key figures from that time period around, then id understand
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75489 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:41 am to
At that time, I was on the fence for bowl ban (However, I had no problem with the $60M fine). Didn't really care for the scholarship reductions.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12723 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:42 am to
Good god, I'd be interested to see if people on this board thought the NCAA or the LHSAA is the bigger joke at the moment.

What was done at PSU was a monstrosity on every level of administration. They are damn lucky they got off as light as they did, and now the NCAA is trying to sweep even more under the rug because the fire has died down immensely? I really dislike these clowns.

Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:45 am to
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Always Seemed a little pointless to me to punish football players and coaches that had nothing to do with all that that went down
Didn't occur. Players got the opportunity to transfer and not sit out if they so chose.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164267 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:45 am to
What's the point of punishing people that had nothing to do with it?

Everyone is gone, dead, fired, or in jail.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12723 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:45 am to
quote:

Are all the people under that whole regime gone?

Always Seemed a little pointless to me to punish football players and coaches that had nothing to do with all that that went down


Unless Penn State kept some of the key figures from that time period around, then id understand



What does this have to do with ANYTHING? USC lost titles/schollies because of Reggie Bush' taking money long after he left USC.

By your logic, if anything messed up happens at your university, the school should not be held accountable as long as the guilty parties are no longer employed. Why don't we allow every school to just fire their coach and anyone related to the incident to avoid punishment from the NCAA?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112338 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:45 am to
It just never really made sense to me. Its a good PR move for the NCAA, sure, but the football penalties never really made sense to me

Fine the ever living shite out of the athletic department, make their lives a living hell, make sure every guy that lead the program is fired, do all that and more, but giving a direct punishment to the current and new players and brand new coaches to try to make sure they are not good at football anymore, just makes no actual sense to me

Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:47 am to
Good move. It was horrific but punishing these new coaches and teenagers isn't helping anything.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112338 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:47 am to
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Didn't occur. Players got the opportunity to transfer and not sit out if they so chose.


Thats assuming every player had the means to transfer to a new school
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:47 am to
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USC lost titles/schollies because of Reggie Bush' taking money long after he left USC.
If I'm not mistaken, USC players were also given the opportunity to transfer without sitting out a year if they wanted.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41208 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:49 am to
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Are all the people under that whole regime gone?


I don't believe so, I think one is on paid leave and the other was transferred to another department. They haven't gone to trial yet.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:49 am to
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giving a direct punishment to the current and new players and brand new coaches to try to make sure they are not good at football anymore, just makes no actual sense to me
None of these people were at Penn State when these infractions were found. Therefore, when they decided to set foot on campus at PSU, they knew that their football program was subject to sanctions. They are not being punished. They knew the possibilities to which they were subject, and they made their choices accordingly.

As far as the players who were at PSU when all this was found out, the NCAA allowed them to transfer without sitting out a year. Nobody is being unjustly punished.
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 11:50 am
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:50 am to
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Pete Thamel ?@SIPeteThamel I asked USC AD Pat Haden about the Penn State decision. He forced a smile and said, "I'd love to have some scholarships back."
Posted by David, Larry David
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
1951 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:50 am to
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Didn't occur. Players got the opportunity to transfer and not sit out if they so chose.


Exactly. This "don't punish the players" idea is idiotic.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65130 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:50 am to
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What does this have to do with ANYTHING? USC lost titles/schollies because of Reggie Bush' taking money long after he left USC.



That at least had something to do with athletics. While what Sandusky did was monstrous, no competitive advantage was gained and the only connection the crime had to the athletic program was that some of the incidents went down inside the facility.

If a coach went on a murder spree inside the athletic building of some random college, after his fellow coaches missed obvious signs that he was psychotic, should the football program go on probation because of it?

Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75489 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:51 am to
Curley (the old AD) was forced out, he was put on leave, but not retained after june 2013.

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Curley was placed on administrative leave pending trial.[11] On October 16, 2012, Penn State announced it will not renew Curley's contract when it expires in June 2013.[12]


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