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PFF Stats of Saints, Game #3
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:29 am
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:29 am
Here are some screenshots of player performances yesterday.
I'll list them by their rank order under various conditions (e.g., best to worst defensive player for pass rush).
OFFENSE
Offense ranked overall:
Offense ranked by pass block:
Offense ranked by run block:
DEFENSE
Defense ranked overall:
Defense ranked by run defense:
Defense ranked by pass rush:
Defense ranked by pass coverage:
I'll list them by their rank order under various conditions (e.g., best to worst defensive player for pass rush).
OFFENSE
Offense ranked overall:
Offense ranked by pass block:
Offense ranked by run block:
DEFENSE
Defense ranked overall:
Defense ranked by run defense:
Defense ranked by pass rush:
Defense ranked by pass coverage:
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:32 am to Hoodoo Man
tl;dr version
Lelito is trash
Lelito is trash
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:33 am to Hoodoo Man
tks for posting Hoodoo, expecting these every week now 
I'm not so much into football stats as a whole. I count the PFF metrics highly tho cuz of how much they align with what the eyeball test each week sez.
I'm not so much into football stats as a whole. I count the PFF metrics highly tho cuz of how much they align with what the eyeball test each week sez.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:34 am to Hoodoo Man
to all you strief haters. 
also i felt like cam jordan played a better game too..
also i felt like cam jordan played a better game too..
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 10:36 am
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:34 am to blueslover
David Hawthorne's numbers stand out to me, might Vilma actually be an upgrade when he comes back?
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:34 am to Hoodoo Man
Lelito isn't going to pressure the slumping/hurting Jahri with these kind of performances.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:37 am to Chad504boy
quote:This is his first week of bad numbers this season, I believe.
David Hawthorne's numbers stand out to me, might Vilma actually be an upgrade when he comes back?
I actually thought he was playing well up until yesterday.
Edit: Yeah, I checked.
His strength is obviously against the run.
He didn't seem to get targeted for coverage much until yesterday.
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 10:41 am
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:39 am to htran90
Can we all agree that the Offensive Tackles are not the problem, really?
The pressure is (largely) coming from the hole between Evans/Lelito and DLP.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
The OL lives and dies with Evans.
The pressure is (largely) coming from the hole between Evans/Lelito and DLP.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
The OL lives and dies with Evans.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:45 am to Chad504boy
quote:
David Hawthorne's numbers stand out to me, might Vilma actually be an upgrade when he comes back?
he ranked really high last week vs. Tampa Bay.
LINK
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:51 am to Hoodoo Man
The play of dlP seems to be distinctly down IMO. He's in a contract year going to UFA, so ya think he can't be slacking. He was quite a rabbit out of the hat story to start off with (5 previous teams). Maybe his play has gone down commensurately with the injury to Evans?
Kinda weird in how there was so much fear of the unknown at LT. At RT Streif has gotten his share of criticism too. Now into a 3-0 start the tackles are solid and we're dealing with middle pressure. Seeing that reinforces the Saints approach of building the middle strong for Brees.
Kinda weird in how there was so much fear of the unknown at LT. At RT Streif has gotten his share of criticism too. Now into a 3-0 start the tackles are solid and we're dealing with middle pressure. Seeing that reinforces the Saints approach of building the middle strong for Brees.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:54 am to blueslover
that middle pressure is causing more turnovers than outside pressure would imo.
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 10:55 am
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:56 am to blueslover
quote:
I count the PFF metrics highly tho cuz of how much they align with what the eyeball test each week sez.
I think they are a good measuring stick but I don't rely on them by themselves.
Just for instance this week the eyeball test said Jordan did much better than that at rushing the passer(2 sacks, 3 hits, several more hurries).
And I didn't see Galette doing that bad in the run.
What I do agree with was Hawthorne in pass coverage but not wholly his fault. He played a lot of middle zone and they were hitting quick crossers before he could really get there.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:59 am to bonethug0108
Vacarro finally out of the RED 
Posted on 9/23/13 at 11:05 am to blueslover
quote:This is my opinion.
Maybe his play has gone down commensurately with the injury to Evans?
Posted on 9/23/13 at 11:10 am to Hoodoo Man
Yeah but the good news is Grubbs is coming on and so might DlP. They aren't good yet but even with Lelito struggling the others held up a bit better than him.
Get Evans healthy and I think the line will look solid again.
Get Evans healthy and I think the line will look solid again.
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 11:12 am
Posted on 9/23/13 at 11:40 am to Hoodoo Man
Jenkins ranked higher in pass defense than Jenkins. wtf Malcolm?
Posted on 9/23/13 at 11:46 am to Kankles
John didn't even play a coverage snap. That is WTF worthy unless he had a batted pass.
Another reason you can't just go by these numbers. They help but aren't the end of of the story.
Another reason you can't just go by these numbers. They help but aren't the end of of the story.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 11:49 am to bonethug0108
quote:I remember one or two.
That is WTF worthy unless he had a batted pass.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 11:58 am to Hoodoo Man
quote:
I remember one or two.
Giving him a whole 0.5 a point for one batted ball seems high. I know it's all based on a percentage of plays vs. pass or run or rush, etc. but that's where things can get skewed.
If anything I think it should have went towards his pass rush stats instead. Then it could be weighted properly.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 12:06 pm to bonethug0108
.5 isn't exactly a lot.
It's well under a standard deviation.
With these kind of statistics, there's always a measure of error.
In reality, .2 and .5 are too close to call (I think).
But anyway, I see what you're saying.
It's well under a standard deviation.
With these kind of statistics, there's always a measure of error.
In reality, .2 and .5 are too close to call (I think).
But anyway, I see what you're saying.
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