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re: Video of Wisconsin-Arizona State finish

Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:46 am to
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:46 am to
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Just showed the clip on ESPN. It's pretty obvious the refs blew this one.

Everybody is ignoring the fact that Wisconsin wasn't even set for the play when the clock hit 0.
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:46 am to
Wisconsin got screwed. There are no two ways about it. The whistle clearly blew and the qb's knee was clearly down. In that situation the officials have to reset the ball quickly, the fact that ASU players were laying all over the ball to prevent that.

They should have reset the clock.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:52 am to
quote:

Everybody is ignoring the fact that Wisconsin wasn't even set for the play when the clock hit 0.


The ball wasn't set till too late to spike it anyway.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:54 am to
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In that situation the officials have to reset the ball quickly
They set it four seconds before UW's offense was set. There was no delay.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41160 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:54 am to
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Wisconsin is the B1G school that I root for, but they blew this one. It's 100% their fault. The officials didn't do anything wrong, period.


You are right, with 3 seconds left Wisconsin wasn't ready to snap the ball. Even if the refs were quicker Wisconsin under the new rules didn't have time to snap the ball.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:55 am to
quote:

The ball wasn't set till too late to spike it anyway.

That's too bad.

"Don't these Arizona State players realize we're trying to hurry up! Why don't they move faster?"
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41160 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:59 am to
quote:

The ball wasn't set till too late to spike it anyway.


# 3 & #48 weren't set when the ball was snapped, that alone would have been a 10 second run off on each.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27783 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:03 am to
Wisconsin didn't do anything wrong. The refs lost control of the situation with time winding down, simple as that.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40925 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:10 am to
Section 4, Article 3.5 of the NCAA Rule Book

quote:

Late in the fourth quarter Team A trails by four points and is driving for a potential score. After a running play on which the ball carrier is tackled inbounds, Team B players are obviously and deliberately slow in letting him get to his feet or otherwise are employing tactics to delay the officials in making the ball ready for play. RULING: Dead-ball foul against Team B, delay of game. When the ball is ready for play, the referee will signal the 25-second clock to start, and the game clock will start on the snap.


the refs failed to call this penalty. the whistle was blown. after this occurred, the ASU players fell on the ball, which the officials had placed at the spot already. a delay of game penalty should have and the clock should have been dead.
Posted by CajunCowboy35
Member since Feb 2012
646 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:16 am to
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:20 am to
quote:

the whistle was blown. after this occurred, the ASU players fell on the ball, which the officials had placed at the spot already.
Wrong. The officials had not touched the ball yet. And you called me blind.
quote:

the refs failed to call this penalty.
That's because there was no infraction. The official instructed the player to get off the ball, and he did so immediately, and the official spotted the ball. Being that all this, as well as the final gun, happened before UW even set their offense, there is no grounds for accusing anyone of delaying the game.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:21 am to
quote:

Wisconsin didn't do anything wrong.
Yes they did. They had 18 seconds left and a stopped clock and didn't even get a field goal off. They blew it.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26233 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:22 am to
Well, the whole situation could have been avoided if either :

A) Wisconsin kicks the field goal to begin with

Or

B) stave doesn't do that awkward ball on the ground thing.


I blame everyone: Wisconsin, Stave, refs, ASU player jumping on the ball.. Every party contributed to that being a fricked up ending IMO.
Posted by Nonetheless
Luka doncic = goat
Member since Jan 2012
33001 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:24 am to
Why didn't wisconsin just spike the ball sooner?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35482 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:25 am to
quote:

Yes they did. They had 18 seconds left and a stopped clock and didn't even get a field goal off. They blew it.


I agree with you. They rushed through the play with 18 seconds left and then stood around as if they had all the time in the world. If Wisconsin had been over the ball immediately after the ball was downed waiting to clock the ball the refs might have acted with a little more urgency.

Secondly, referees from the home teams conference should never be allowed to ref an OOC game. Particularly PAC12 refs who have a history of screwing over opponents (see Oregon vs Oklahoma fiasco).
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27783 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:30 am to
quote:

B) stave doesn't do that awkward ball on the ground thing

You mean take a knee and place the ball on the ground? On what planet is that awkward?
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27783 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:32 am to
quote:

Why didn't wisconsin just spike the ball sooner?

Because the umpire allowed ASU to lay on the ball to kill time. Then when he finally removed them the umpire stood over the ball for a couple more seconds.

Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40925 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:34 am to
quote:

Wrong. The officials had not touched the ball yet.


whoops. i goofed. well, the fact that the officials hadn't gotten to the ball yet about 4 seconds after he took a knee should tell you something, too.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:34 am to
quote:

Because the umpire allowed ASU to lay on the ball to kill time. Then when he finally removed them the umpire stood over the ball for a couple more seconds.

This doesn't matter.

Wisconsin's entire offensive line was fiddle-farting around and never got set.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:35 am to
quote:

whoops. i goofed. well, the fact that the officials hadn't gotten to the ball yet about 4 seconds after he took a knee should tell you something, too.
The fact that Wisconsin took more than 15 seconds to get set when the previous play ended with 15 seconds left tells you even more.
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