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re: Video of Wisconsin-Arizona State finish

Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:25 am to
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:25 am to
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By kneeling the ball??

No. He was correct in kneeling the ball. The kneeling part was good of him.
Posted by tiger2012
bossier city/Los Angeles/Atlanta
Member since Sep 2006
4493 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:36 am to
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Did the QB have any idea how much time was on the clock? He seemed very nonchalant until it got down to 5 secs, then he stated freaking out


That's what I saw. He spent too much time with the referee behind him while the rest of the team was lining up. He should have had his hands under center ready to take a snap instead of motioning that he was down to that referee.
This post was edited on 9/15/13 at 8:38 am
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:36 am to
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The officials completely blew that. 100% on them

Wrong. The officials blew the whistle when the QB's knee hit the ground, so they were correct up to this point of course.

I'm going by this video to explain this timeline:
:16 Whistle blows play dead as QB's knee hits ground.
:12 ASU player falls on the ball, thinking it is a live fumble
:09 Official taps ASU player on the shoulder, instructing him to get off the ball
:06 ASU player is no longer touching the ball
:04 Ball is spotted
:03 Wisconsin QB makes first communication for offense to be set
:01 Wisconsin is set for the play
:00 end of game

The officials did nothing wrong here, and Wisconsin completely blew it.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26642 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:40 am to
Why didn't he spike it to stop the clock?

What a maroon.
Posted by TC16
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
2531 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:41 am to


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ballscaster


Head ref last night
This post was edited on 9/15/13 at 8:42 am
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40926 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:42 am to
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The officials did nothing wrong here, and Wisconsin completely blew it.


quote:

:16 Whistle blows play dead


quote:

:12 ASU player falls on the bal


so after a 4 second delay, a defensive player falls on the ball after the official blew the play dead

quote:

:06 ASU player is no longer touching the ball


then 6 seconds later, he's off the ball...sounds like defensive delay of game to me
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:43 am to
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then 6 seconds later, he's off the ball...sounds like defensive delay of game to me

Three seconds after first being tapped on the shoulder, he was no longer touching the ball. Any defensive delay is imagined.

None of this matters anyway. Wisconsin wasn't set until :01. That's on them.
This post was edited on 9/15/13 at 8:45 am
Posted by TC16
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
2531 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:45 am to
3 seconds too many
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4467 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:47 am to
Evidently New NCAA rule where the ball cannot be spiked with less that 3 seconds remaining. He didn't need to spike the ball until the ref reset the ball, which didn't happen for a the majority of the 16 or so seconds left.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:47 am to
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3 seconds too many

Hard to get up in exactly 0 seconds.

Wisconsin is the B1G school that I root for, but they blew this one. It's 100% their fault. The officials didn't do anything wrong, period.
Posted by TC16
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
2531 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:50 am to
Exactly. The referee failed to get the ball spotted knowing there was a running clock and what these guys were obliviously trying to do with 18 seconds and no timeouts. That is not on Wisconsin.
Posted by fleaux
section 0
Member since Aug 2012
8741 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:52 am to
The umpire had his hand up telling Wisconsin they couldn't snap it yet even after the ASU player was up, they were not allowed to snap the ball... I swear some of you argue a wrong opposing point on everything just to get people riled up
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40926 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:52 am to
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Wisconsin is the B1G school that I root for, but they blew this one. It's 100% their fault. The officials didn't do anything wrong, period.



i don't disagree that it's partially on Wiscy, but to make the refs faultless in this is beyond moronic. so either you are trolling or blind.
Posted by razer
Bossier City
Member since Feb 2010
694 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:54 am to
The refs fricked that one up. They didnt have the sac to call a delay penalty on the home team because the crowd woulda gone batshit crazy.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51630 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:55 am to
wow, wisky got screwed. I do question that play call thou, with no timeouts. Also, why the frick did he put the ball on the ground? any defense would have done the same thing and jumped on the ball there.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:58 am to
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i don't disagree that it's partially on Wiscy, but to make the refs faultless in this is beyond moronic. so either you are trolling or blind.

I showed you the timeline. There's nothing wrong with what happened. UW blew it. There was no defensive delay.

UW #3 and #48 were never even set at all, and #61 wasn't set until :00. That means the ball was spotted at least 4 seconds before Wisconsin's offense was set.
This post was edited on 9/15/13 at 9:02 am
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:03 am to
WOW. I fell asleep in the chair for this one. Unbelievable.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77467 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:20 am to
Watched it a few times. I think even if you blame this one on the refs, you have to give some blame to Wisconsin.

They ran a play to center the ball with 18 seconds left and no timeouts. The QB takes a very quick knee jumps up and puts the ball on the ground. They have no timeouts. That offense should've been on the ball ready to snap the ball with 8 seconds left. Honestly, they shouldn't have run that play with no timeouts. Retarded.

With that said, a little blame goes on the refs for not moving a little faster. But that's what you get for putting the game in the hands of the ref at the end. Wisky blew it
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:25 am to
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That offense should've been on the ball ready to snap the ball with 8 seconds left.
This cannot be denied. The fact that UW wasn't even set by the time the clock ran out puts the blame on them.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50522 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:45 am to
Just showed the clip on ESPN. It's pretty obvious the refs blew this one.
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