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re: Video of Wisconsin-Arizona State finish
Posted on 9/15/13 at 11:26 am to MOT
Posted on 9/15/13 at 11:26 am to MOT
quote:You are wrong.
Obviously it doesn't matter because they lost and there is nothing anyone can do to change that. But we're discussing the incompetency of the umpire in not getting the ball ready for play prior to there only being one second on the clock. The officials clearly lost control and screwed it up. Yes, Wisconsin lost. But that doesn't mean it was handled correctly by the officials.
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 11:28 am to MOT
quote:11 seconds is fine. Still enough time for a spike with 4 seconds left. Wisconsin wasn't ready in time. You don't have a good argument.
Yes he did. Then it took him 11 seconds of the game clock to mark the ball ready for play, and it should not have.
Posted on 9/15/13 at 11:28 am to ballscaster
ASU is #23
Wisky #24
in new AP
Wisky only dropped 4 places.
Wisky #24
in new AP
Wisky only dropped 4 places.
Posted on 9/15/13 at 11:29 am to arrakis
quote:Incorrect.
So? It's his job to get to the ball ASAP. He didn't.
Posted on 9/15/13 at 11:32 am to ballscaster
Just kick the field goal and you take the game out of the refs hands.
Posted on 9/15/13 at 11:32 am to ballscaster
quote:
11 seconds is fine. Still enough time for a spike with 4 seconds left. Wisconsin wasn't ready in time. You don't have a good argument.
You're terrible at math or just can't keep track of your terrible argument any more. You said he got to the ball after weaving through people, he did fine, etc. He got there with 12 seconds left. He then dicked around with the ASU players for several seconds, even stopping to say something to the one who wasn't even on the ground at one point, and then he marked the ball for play with one second left. That's 11 seconds. He botched it, there is no other way around it.
Posted on 9/15/13 at 11:37 am to ballscaster
quote:
Incorrect.
I'm sure you have attended dozens of officiating clinics, taken the mechanics test, and probably are a certified instructor. But, tell us how there was 4 seconds left for Wisconsin to spike the ball (your words) when the U is stopping the center from addressing the ball (he's over the ball with his arm out) and the clock shows 2 seconds?
Changing facts to fit your opinion is weak....
Posted on 9/15/13 at 12:16 pm to MOT
quote:Play ended at 15. 11 seconds later is 4.
You're terrible at math or just can't keep track of your terrible argument any more. You said he got to the ball after weaving through people, he did fine, etc. He got there with 12 seconds left. He then dicked around with the ASU players for several seconds, even stopping to say something to the one who wasn't even on the ground at one point, and then he marked the ball for play with one second left. That's 11 seconds. He botched it, there is no other way around it.
Doesn't matter. Wisconsin wasn't set and didn't snap the ball in time, so they lose.
Also, that three second rule isn't in effect here. That's a rule for when the clock starts after a first down, which was not the case here.
Posted on 9/15/13 at 12:17 pm to arrakis
quote:Moot. Clock showed 0 before Wisconsin was ready.
I'm sure you have attended dozens of officiating clinics, taken the mechanics test, and probably are a certified instructor. But, tell us how there was 4 seconds left for Wisconsin to spike the ball (your words) when the U is stopping the center from addressing the ball (he's over the ball with his arm out) and the clock shows 2 seconds? Changing facts to fit your opinion is weak....
Posted on 9/15/13 at 12:56 pm to ballscaster
FYI two college officials I know disagree on this, and they're saying that there's quite a debate in the officiating community. Letter of the rule vs. spirit of the rule type of thing.
Posted on 9/15/13 at 12:59 pm to ballscaster
quote:
Doesn't matter. Wisconsin wasn't set and didn't snap the ball in time, so they lose.
because the asu players were delaying the game and the refs didn't know what was going on
Posted on 9/15/13 at 1:07 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:That doesn't keep Wisconsin from getting set.
because the asu players were delaying the game and the refs didn't know what was going on
Again, when the clock hit 0, Wisconsin was the only party not ready. The officials and ASU were in position; Wisconsin wasn't.
This post was edited on 9/15/13 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 9/15/13 at 1:13 pm to ballscaster
quote:
That doesn't keep Wisconsin from getting set.
it does when the ASU player's fat arse is laying on top the ball
Posted on 9/15/13 at 1:22 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:No, it doesn't. The left tackle and tight end were not set at :00, and they were nowhere near the ball. The ball was clear at :06.
it does when the ASU player's fat arse is laying on top the ball
Posted on 9/15/13 at 1:47 pm to ballscaster
quote:
Play ended at 15. 11 seconds later is 4.
Umpire got to the ball at 12, which is what we were discussing. 11 seconds later is 1. Video clearly shows he didn't move off the ball until there was 1 second remaining. He botched it, get over yourself.
Posted on 9/15/13 at 1:51 pm to MOT
quote:Doesn't matter. Wisconsin wasn't set when the clock hit 0. Had they been set earlier, the official would have set the ball earlier, and nothing you can say will prove otherwise.
Play ended at 15. 11 seconds later is 4. Umpire got to the ball at 12, which is what we were discussing. 11 seconds later is 1. Video clearly shows he didn't move off the ball until there was 1 second remaining.
You don't have a good argument. What you don't understand is that nothing that you're saying matters. Wisconsin was not prepared to snap the ball in time, so they lost. It's over.
This post was edited on 9/15/13 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 9/15/13 at 1:53 pm to ballscaster
quote:
Again, when the clock hit 0, Wisconsin was the only party not ready. The officials and ASU were in position; Wisconsin wasn't.
So the basis of your argument is the official is not at fault because he was ready....when the game was over. Brilliant.
Posted on 9/15/13 at 1:53 pm to ballscaster
unreal logic
Posted on 9/15/13 at 1:53 pm to MOT
quote:Not what I said. You're being a girl.
So the basis of your argument is the official is not at fault because he was ready....when the game was over
Posted on 9/15/13 at 1:55 pm to ballscaster
quote:
ballscaster
Jesus man, give it up. You look like an idiot trying to argue this.
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