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Commissioners: At what point do you veto a trade?
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:26 pm
I have two guys trying to trade:
-Calvin Johnson
-Jimmy Graham
-Pierre Thomas
for
-Jammal Charles
-Jermichael Finley
-Michael Floyd
These same two guys tried to pull of a very suspect trade last year, which I cancelled myself and it caused an uproar. I'm sure it'll get vetoed by the league anyway, but what would you guys do?
-Calvin Johnson
-Jimmy Graham
-Pierre Thomas
for
-Jammal Charles
-Jermichael Finley
-Michael Floyd
These same two guys tried to pull of a very suspect trade last year, which I cancelled myself and it caused an uproar. I'm sure it'll get vetoed by the league anyway, but what would you guys do?
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:29 pm to mm2316
That trade isn't veto worthy.
The first team is getting the better end, but trades don't have to benefit both teams equally.
The first team is getting the better end, but trades don't have to benefit both teams equally.
This post was edited on 9/13/13 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:31 pm to mm2316
Let it run it's course... that's why you guys have a league vote. If you feel like it's going to get vetoed anyways, no point in ruffling feathers and making yourself the bad guy.
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:31 pm to Nonetheless
quote:
That trade isn't veto worthy.
wut
that's obvious collusion.
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:32 pm to mm2316
Collusion only
That trade is obviously one sided, but not veto worthy
That trade is obviously one sided, but not veto worthy
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:32 pm to Nonetheless
I call that collusion. I don't care how much you suck at fantasy, you don't give up Calvin Johnson and Jimmy Graham to get back Jamaal. Period.
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:34 pm to ShoeBang
You can make the argument that Jamal is the highest drafted and best player of that deal
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:35 pm to mm2316
post up the teams of both. It can make sense if the guy with Calvin has solid other WRs and the guy giving up Jamal has none but solid RBs.
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:37 pm to TigerTatorTots
quote:
You can make the argument that Jamal is the highest drafted and best player of that deal
You can also make the argument that Jamaal is the decoy in this collusion trade.
Need to see the rest of their rosters before final judgement but this smells like collusion all the way
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:39 pm to mm2316
That trade is not veto worthy.
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:43 pm to ShoeBang
I think that it's right on the line for me to be convinced that it's collusion. I would have to see the rosters to decide. The fact that you said that they've tried to do this before leans me further towards it being collusion. What's the relationship between these two people?
This post was edited on 9/13/13 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:46 pm to ShoeBang
quote:
I don't care how much you suck at fantasy, you don't give up Calvin Johnson and Jimmy Graham to get back Jamaal. Period.
He might have Jordan Cameron or Julius Thomas and no RBs worth a damn. I don't think you can assume collusion based on the facts given.
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:48 pm to mm2316
Being the commissioner sucks
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:48 pm to TigerTatorTots
quote:
You can make the argument that Jamal is the highest drafted and best player of that deal
highest drafted, maybe
best player, no way
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:48 pm to boom roasted
People are so quick to call a trade collusion these days.
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:49 pm to boom roasted
I have a hands-off policy in my league. Here is the line from my league constitution:
IV. Trades
Trades are considered as between two consenting adults. We encourage that the veto system should only be used if collusion is suspected. If a trade is successfully veto'd, the managers involved in the trade have the right to request a roll call of who voted against the trade. Those managers that voted against the trade will then be required to state the reasoning behind their vote within 24 hours. Barring evidence of collusion (or something else substantial), the trade will be granted by the commish. Final judgement is always reserved by the commish.
I know a League Constitution may be over the top but I cannot tell you how many times it has bailed us out.
IV. Trades
Trades are considered as between two consenting adults. We encourage that the veto system should only be used if collusion is suspected. If a trade is successfully veto'd, the managers involved in the trade have the right to request a roll call of who voted against the trade. Those managers that voted against the trade will then be required to state the reasoning behind their vote within 24 hours. Barring evidence of collusion (or something else substantial), the trade will be granted by the commish. Final judgement is always reserved by the commish.
I know a League Constitution may be over the top but I cannot tell you how many times it has bailed us out.
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:49 pm to mm2316
Uh... Charles, Finley, and Floyd outscored Calvin, Jimmy, and Thomas by 11 points in our league last week. I don't see the problem.
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:49 pm to boom roasted
quote:
He might have Jordan Cameron or Julius Thomas and no RBs worth a damn. I don't think you can assume collusion based on the facts given.
Though I agree, like I said in an earlier post, need to see rosters to make a final judgement, but this is fishy
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:49 pm to mm2316
I personally wouldn't veto that.
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:49 pm to TigerTatorTots
quote:
Collusion only
That trade is obviously one sided, but not veto worthy
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