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How is LSU's defense now considered bad?
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:31 pm
gave up 20 points to TCU, 7 was when drive started on the LSU 5. And 17 to UAB after going up 28-0. This doesn't seem bad to me. They look just as good as they always have.
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:32 pm to LSUtillidie311
It's not?
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:33 pm to LSUtillidie311
Giving up the edge and up the gut a little to much for my comfort at this point.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:34 pm to LSUtillidie311
they've had some issues, but we are still sorting things out.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:34 pm to LSUtillidie311
Chicken, is there some kind of work/poster release program or something?
I haven't been to the Rant in awhile, but I think you're doing good things for these people.
Don Henley said the heart of the matter is forgiveness. Thank you, Chicken.
I haven't been to the Rant in awhile, but I think you're doing good things for these people.
Don Henley said the heart of the matter is forgiveness. Thank you, Chicken.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:35 pm to LSUtillidie311
Not bad, but certainly not what we're used to seeing. Dont live in denail, these guys need experience.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:35 pm to LSUtillidie311
They're not.
The run defense numbers do concern me a little. I trust they will get better.
The run defense numbers do concern me a little. I trust they will get better.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:36 pm to LSUChicageaux
Idiots finding crap to complain about.
Anyone can see that this D is young and inexperienced. That's different from being a bad D. As the weeks go on, they'll look at tape and they will improve. This D is clearly talented and has to find ways to harness that talent.
Anyone can see that this D is young and inexperienced. That's different from being a bad D. As the weeks go on, they'll look at tape and they will improve. This D is clearly talented and has to find ways to harness that talent.
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:37 pm to TigerFanNKaty
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Giving up the edge a little to much for my comfort at this point.
This. Our DE are either out of position or they are much slower than what we are used to seeing out of our ends.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:39 pm to SpeckledTiger
They don't look slow just crashing down to hard and not fighting to keep containment.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:52 pm to The Mick
I know they aren't bad but it seems liek everyone is saying things like "they aren't like they used to be". Its not like they have never had concerns on defense in the past 5 years
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:54 pm to LSUtillidie311
The defense is not nearly as imposing as it has been. Traditionally, LSU's defense is faster than the opponent's offense.
This is not the case this year, as both TCU and UAB had quite a bit of success running outside the tackles. In addition, Mills getting toasted deep wasn't a one-time event; there have been several times where WRs are running free but the QB just doesn't see them. A more accomplished offense has a chance to put some serious points on us.
It's my hope that most of the issues are from being inexperienced, and will resolve over the course of the season. That said, from what I've seen, I'm not sure putting 30 points on UGA or A&M will be enough. For that matter, the scheme Auburn runs might give us fits too.
This is not the case this year, as both TCU and UAB had quite a bit of success running outside the tackles. In addition, Mills getting toasted deep wasn't a one-time event; there have been several times where WRs are running free but the QB just doesn't see them. A more accomplished offense has a chance to put some serious points on us.
It's my hope that most of the issues are from being inexperienced, and will resolve over the course of the season. That said, from what I've seen, I'm not sure putting 30 points on UGA or A&M will be enough. For that matter, the scheme Auburn runs might give us fits too.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:55 pm to LSUtillidie311
I have seen some bad angles taken and some missed tackles. I still believe this is a championship defense, and all we are doing is trying to find the right combination of players to put on the field. Chavis will get it done.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:58 pm to Scoob
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The defense is not nearly as imposing as it has been. Traditionally, LSU's defense is faster than the opponent's offense.
This is not the case this year, as both TCU and UAB had quite a bit of success running outside the tackles. In addition, Mills getting toasted deep wasn't a one-time event; there have been several times where WRs are running free but the QB just doesn't see them. A more accomplished offense has a chance to put some serious points on us.
It's my hope that most of the issues are from being inexperienced, and will resolve over the course of the season. That said, from what I've seen, I'm not sure putting 30 points on UGA or A&M will be enough. For that matter, the scheme Auburn runs might give us fits too.
I generally agree with this assessment. If we are going to win the SEC, the run defense in particular has to improve.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:58 pm to LSUtillidie311
bad as in the Michael Jackson Way.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 1:12 pm to clamdip
recall a 2nd or 3rd and 1 or 2 against TCU. The entire LSU defense (line of scrimmage) was literally pushed back about 3 yards on a play up the middle. Zero penetration. Not used to seeing that from a Chavis defense, so im a little concerned, but im not about to sound the alarms unless we start giving up 24+ ppg.
thought: SEC OL are prolly bigger/better.
thought: SEC OL are prolly bigger/better.
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 9/10/13 at 1:23 pm to BobBoucher
quote:the concern is, TCU did exceed that point total. Yeah, I know, kick return (nullified by kicking it out of the endzone), and gift possesion inside the 10; but still- that was with Pachall playing the 1st half. If Boykin plays the whole game, they might have gotten a couple drives more.
recall a 2nd or 3rd and 1 or 2 against TCU. The entire LSU defense (line of scrimmage) was literally pushed back about 3 yards on a play up the middle. Zero penetration. Not used to seeing that from a Chavis defense, so im a little concerned, but im not about to sound the alarms unless we start giving up 24+ ppg.
thought: SEC OL are prolly bigger/better.
UAB could have gotten there too, considering we held them on downs (a likely sure 3), and they were about 5 yds out from getting the FG that Beckham ran back.
You gotta think UGA, A&M, and Ole Miss have more offensive talent than we've faced thus far; the one play Auburn runs well is killing us so far; and let's not think Alabama fell off a cliff after "only" winning 35-10 in their opener. For that matter, Arkansas will be a bowl team this year, now that they have a coach again.
We COULD outscore all of them, but 20 pts isn't the magic "winner" line it was in the past. We'll probably need 40's to beat UGA and A&M.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 1:27 pm to Scoob
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The defense is not nearly as imposing as it has been. Traditionally, LSU's defense is faster than the opponent's offense.
They still are as fast as ever. From what I've seen they've just been tackling badly and taking poor angles. Physically this D can still stand up to anyone.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 1:32 pm to Goldrush25
Its not that most consider it bad, its just that we are not use to seeing our DE give up the edges, poor angles, and poor tackling.
All of which are fixable with experience, scheme, and coaching.
All of which are fixable with experience, scheme, and coaching.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 1:34 pm to LSUtillidie311
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gave up 20 points to TCU, 7 was when drive started on the LSU 5
Actually, they only gave up 13 if you're not counting the drive that started at the LSU 5.
Special teams gave up 7 on a kick return.
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