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Posted on 8/5/13 at 1:53 pm
Posted by bigblake
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 1:53 pm
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Posted by Camp Randall
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 2:00 pm to
in BR - Locations, and Tom Mackey manage properties.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 2:56 pm to
I used Craigslist and a sign in the yard. Did not negotiate on rent and ran credit checks on prospective tennants with a $25 non refundable fee.

The credit check seemed to scare off the deadbeats. I checked because I did not want to see an eviction for non payment of rent. Also realize that they are renting for a reason and credit will probably not be great.

Pets: non-refundible pet fee, make it like $1,000

Deposit: 1 month rent.

Might also be smart to require the tennant to get renters insurance in the lease.
Posted by RonFNSwanson
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 3:00 pm to
$1000 non refundable pet fee? Damn son
Posted by ThaBigFella
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 3:02 pm to
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Also realize that they are renting for a reason and credit will probably not be great.


Really? My credit is great, my rent is higher than the average american makes in a month, that's pretty ignorant school of thought. There's people in my building with $15K/month rentals, you live in a bubble if you think people rent bc they can't buy. I'm renting for $500 more than my landlord pays in taxes and maintenance. When you factor in insurance, the fact $300 of cable and internet are included, the fact I pay $120/month of electricity on a 2200 sq ft condo, and the fact I'd need at least $200K down to buy this place, I have a steal at what I pay.....It would easily cost me $5k more a month than Im paying now in the form of a mortgage to buy it. Buying isn't always the best option, if you can afford it you can get more bang for your buck as a renter, sure you lose on equity, but I'm not worried in the long run bc I have businesses and investments that offset the loss of built equity.
This post was edited on 8/5/13 at 3:06 pm
Posted by GreenTrout
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 3:02 pm to
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Pets: non-refundible pet fee, make it like $1,000



Well most appts I would say run $300-$500 in BR. So for a house with a yard I'm fine with this as they shouldn't have the mess and problems.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 3:11 pm to
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Pets: non-refundible pet fee, make it like $1,000


LOL, way to run off perfectly good tenants. My last land lord wanted to meet my dog, 90 lb rott. After meeting him, and us, he offered for us to have him with no deposit, but we would pay for any actual damages. Moved out a few months ago and got our full security deposit back. We gave him 2 years of easy on time rent and did updates to the yard and some appliances we left. We never would have considered him if he had a ridiculous pet deposit like that, and he'd have missed out on free upgrades and good tenants.

ETA: I wouldn't consider anywhere with a non refundable deposit for anything. Too many places without them for me to just piss that money away. You'll run off good people with big non refundable deposits.
This post was edited on 8/5/13 at 3:14 pm
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 3:13 pm to
Yes, I made several assumptions. He said house in BR, so I assumed its an average 3 bedroom / 2bath.

I generalized from my previous experiences with my rental properties.

In the case of a much nicer and larger house, yes I would expect better or good credit.

I was more suggesting that bad credit may not be a sign of bad renters. Several have had bad credit and were great, others have decent credit and are fine too.
Posted by Oenophile Brah
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 3:14 pm to
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My last land lord wanted to meet my dog, 90 lb rott. After meeting him, and us, he offered for us to have him with no deposit, but we would pay for any actual damages

You increased the owners liability. Just because nothing happened in those 2 years doesn't make it a good idea.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 3:16 pm to
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You increased the owners liability. Just because nothing happened in those 2 years doesn't make it a good idea.


I'm not saying let any random animal in your rental, but a $1000 pocket lining, er non refundable fee, will turn people off to even inquiring about a rental.

ETA: And I'm sure that's why he wanted to meet the dog. I have no doubt he wouldn't allow us to rent if the dog was aggressive and what not, which I would have completely understood.
This post was edited on 8/5/13 at 3:18 pm
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 3:18 pm to
I prefer no pets. After dealing with all kinds of issues from pets I don't see that as outrageous.

I have to replace a back door on a place right now because a dog freaking ate it. I also have to contract a pest control company to spray for the flea infestation for the next several months. Throw in cleaning up the poop all over the patio, yeah $1k is a good number for me.
Posted by Oenophile Brah
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 3:21 pm to
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ETA: And I'm sure that's why he wanted to meet the dog. I have no doubt he wouldn't allow us to rent if the dog was aggressive and what not, which I would have completely understood

That is gambling.
No way in the world I would allow the sweetest 90lb Rot to live in my rental. If something happened and the owner was underinsured, he could have lost his house. I agree with a non refundable fee even for a small animal.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84060 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 3:22 pm to
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I prefer no pets. After dealing with all kinds of issues from pets I don't see that as outrageous.


Then just say no pets

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I have to replace a back door on a place right now because a dog freaking ate it. I also have to contract a pest control company to spray for the flea infestation for the next several months. Throw in cleaning up the poop all over the patio, yeah $1k is a good number for me.


Is the pest control extra for fleas? And as far as the poo, sounds like you just had crappy people living there. I don't have an issue with having a deposit, but non refundable is kinda bullshite IMO. In my case, you would have gotten an extra $1000 from me for no reason. I just don't agree with it, but alas I'm also not a landlord. Just giving my $0.02.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 3:24 pm to
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. I agree with a non refundable fee even for a small animal.



Well I'd never rent from someone that wasn't the least bit fair about their fees, so I guess it doesn't really matter. I'm sure you wouldn't want my Olive Garden take out in your place anyway
Posted by Oenophile Brah
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 3:28 pm to
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I'm sure you wouldn't want my Olive Garden take out in your place anyway

That's why I get bank statements. I want to see where the tenant eats...

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Well I'd never rent from someone that wasn't the least bit fair about their fees,

Not a big fan of that word. Not sure what is unfair about fees for added cost to the owner.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
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84060 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 3:31 pm to
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Not a big fan of that word. Not sure what is unfair about fees for added cost to the owner.


My only issue is it's non refundable. If my pet didn't do any damage at all, there isn't any added cost to you.
Posted by Oenophile Brah
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Member since Jan 2013
7540 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 3:35 pm to
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If my pet didn't do any damage at all, there isn't any added cost to you

You have to raise your liability insurance to cover the added risk of an animal attack. I believe a dog like a Rot requires a specific coverage rider.

This doesn't even consider the added costs of removing the odor associated with animals.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84060 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 3:37 pm to
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You have to raise your liability insurance to cover the added risk of an animal attack. I believe a dog like a Rot requires a specific coverage rider.


May have me on that one.

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This doesn't even consider the added costs of removing the odor associated with animals.


Some people do actually clean after their animals, and groom them etc. There were no signs when I left my old rental that a dog was ever living there. Required a lot of effort on my part, like I said, I was a good tenant.

ETA: Should probably also add that my dog is half Australian Shepherd, so you can guess what he gets reported as for insurance purposes. I'd imagine my landlord took advantage of that as well.
This post was edited on 8/5/13 at 3:40 pm
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