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gift tax question

Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:09 pm
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:09 pm
can my dad give me $14,000 now and then $6,000 in January tax free? or would he have to wait till August of '14

tia
Posted by slaphappy
Kansas City
Member since Nov 2005
2340 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:20 pm to
I may be mistaken, but I thought it was $10K per calendar year...
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
26489 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:26 pm to
quote:

can my dad give me $14,000 now and then $6,000 in January tax free? or would he have to wait till August of '14


Will defer to the experts but I'm pretty sure you can do 14k now and 6k in Jan.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/1/13 at 7:29 am to
I would think it is $14k per calendar year, so that should be fine. But you could always just open a joint bank account and have him deposit $20k I would think?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126960 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 7:52 am to
quote:

I may be mistaken, but I thought it was $10K per calendar year...
It used to be $10K but it has increased.
Posted by ThaBigFella
baton rouge
Member since Apr 2006
2043 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 7:52 am to
I think it's $13k for him and $13k for your mom so tell them you want $26k.
This post was edited on 8/1/13 at 7:53 am
Posted by Oenophile Brah
The Edge of Sanity
Member since Jan 2013
7540 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 8:05 am to
Not cerain on the question at hand, but I think the limit is $14,400 which increases periodically. January seems like the answer to your question though.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 8:32 am to
Calendar year. You can give it to him on December 31 then on January 1.

ETA: I think he can actually give it all to you now and the extra $6k would go against his exempted amount, which unless he has a quite large estate it won't matter.
This post was edited on 8/1/13 at 8:38 am
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 8:33 am to
Jesus, what for? I'd be pumped if my parents gave me $50.
Posted by Ray Finkle
Collier county
Member since Sep 2007
1639 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:32 am to
Your dad AND mom can each give you the max gift amount per year.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26233 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:04 am to
Actually he can give you $5.25 million right now and it not result in any taxes on anyone.

Posted by LSUMon
Monroe
Member since Aug 2006
397 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 1:19 pm to
Best thing to do is have him give you whatever amounts he wants, say 20,000, and write up a loan schedule for the money to be repaid, and just never pay it back. No gift tax returns have to be filed, so no one will be looking.
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
4696 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

Best thing to do is have him give you whatever amounts he wants, say 20,000, and write up a loan schedule for the money to be repaid, and just never pay it back. No gift tax returns have to be filed, so no one will be looking.

No gift tax return has to be filed for any gift that qualifies for the annual exclusion. Also, the loan thing is a terrible idea. It has become a red flag that is commonly snuffed out. Don't do that shite. 14k now, 6k at any time in 2014.
Posted by LSUMon
Monroe
Member since Aug 2006
397 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

Also, the loan thing is a terrible idea. It has become a red flag that is commonly snuffed out.


Out of curiosity, how is this a red flag and how/who is commonly snuffing this out? Not arguing just wondering.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
84060 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

Also, the loan thing is a terrible idea. It has become a red flag that is commonly snuffed out.


I'm not buying this. Even so, what about my joint bank account idea?

ETA: And why should the gov't get a cut of a parent giving their child money? Is that really taxable?
This post was edited on 8/1/13 at 1:32 pm
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 1:31 pm to
The limit for 2013 is $14,000. However, each of your parents can give you that amount and not have to pay tax on it. So, yes as long as you still have a mother, your parents could give you up to $28,000 in 2013 and not pay taxes on it.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

Actually he can give you $5.25 million right now and it not result in any taxes on anyone.


Where do you even come up with something like this?
This post was edited on 8/1/13 at 1:38 pm
Posted by TheDiesel
Phoenix
Member since Feb 2010
2608 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 1:42 pm to
Estate?
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 1:47 pm to
Which had nothing to do with the question being asked.
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
4696 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Out of curiosity, how is this a red flag and how/who is commonly snuffing this out? Not arguing just wondering.

First, you have to actually charge interest, and the debtor must pay on it, or else it is a 20k gift.
Second, you would have to report it as a debt when you applied for a mortgage or borrow money, which is dumb because it would throw your income/debt ratio out of whack, for no good reason.
And the IRS can commonly sniff this out if you were ever audited.
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