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Perfect Annual Salary?

Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80101 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:11 pm
Just curious what the MTB thinks on the issue.

IYO, what is the perfect salary? Not being greedy, because of course more is better. But what $$$ amount in your mind is something to be proud of, comfortable with, livable? Something that you can live comfortably off of, have nice things, invest well, and not have to worry about finances...

Also, does this change with age and if so, what are those numbers (say at 30/40/50)?






Posted by Sigma_
Member since Jun 2013
46 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:16 pm to
Probably making around $400k per year (including bonus) would be a comfortable place in life, without being so much that you would go crazy spending it.
Posted by trident
Member since Jul 2007
4745 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

$400k per year

jesus

I was thinking 100k would be a good life, not a baller but a decent lifestyle
Posted by raw dog
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
483 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:18 pm to
I'll take a stab:

25 - 50k+
30 - 100k+
40 - 150k+
50 - 200k+

"No worries" number - 300k+

This post was edited on 7/28/13 at 12:19 pm
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37694 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:18 pm to
$100, 000 goes fast. I'm 30 and around this number.

I don't feel even close to well off.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25315 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:21 pm to
$90,000 to $100,000 doesn't go as far as it used to.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80101 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:21 pm to
Damn, y'all are all fricking ballers...

I mean, when the median income for a male 25-35 with a bachelors degree is somewhere around 50k.

I was thinking in the 70-100k ball park


Again, I'm not talking about the number you'd love to be at to live the wild life, I'm talking about respectable, happy, no worries.
This post was edited on 7/28/13 at 12:22 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84943 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

IYO, what is the perfect salary?


Obviously, it depends on situation. But I think the better term would be "household" salary. Once you're married and kids get in the picture, 100k pre-tax won't get you so far with a mortgage, car payment, and student loans.

Household:

25: 100k
30: 130k
40: 175k
50: 250k
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3789 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:23 pm to
What kind of question is this? There isn't really a reasonable answer, because everyone has different goals.

There's tons of people living happily at $50k and disgruntled people at $500k.

If I made more, I could simply retire earlier. I'd also maybe travel more than I'm planning to. What about kids? More means giving them more and providing for the start of their adult life.

It definitely changes with age/life. Early on it would be lower, steadily growing to a peak, then falling off at the end.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53151 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

$100, 000 goes fast. I'm 30 and around this number.

I don't feel even close to well off.


100k and 30 and single and you don't feel well off? jesus man.
Posted by Hand
far side of the moon
Member since Dec 2007
2064 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:24 pm to
100k would be alright. you still have trade offs between roi and rol. 150k would give you an extra ~2k per month to have fun with.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80101 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

100k and 30 and single and you don't feel well off? jesus man.




No fricking shite.. But like someone pointed out, to each his own.

I know its a hard question, I was just curious what everyone thought. Like I said, the median for a male with a bachelors is around 50k. Thats why I pegged in the 70-100k as being well off.

That easily affords you a 250k mortgage, a nice car, spending money, and putting away a few thousand a month.
Posted by Sigma_
Member since Jun 2013
46 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:32 pm to
I guess I was thinking 400k if you wanted to send two kids to private school and save 100k per year. Without that 250k would be a very comfortable place to be in life.

The question was about doing all of these nice things and not worrying about money.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84943 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

That easily affords you a 250k mortgage, a nice car, spending money, and putting away a few thousand a month.


Not really.

100k/year means taking home about 70k or 6k/month. But then there's health insurance, and whatever you put in 401k or the like. So let's say 5k goes into your bank.

Mortage + Escrow: 1500
Car: 450
TV/Internet: 130
Water/Gas: 100
Energy: 250
Security System: 60
Gasoline: 400
Groceries: 300
Car ins in LA: 200
Student Loans: 400
Cell Phone: 80

So that gives you just over 1000 for everything else.
This post was edited on 7/28/13 at 12:38 pm
Posted by ThaBigFella
baton rouge
Member since Apr 2006
2043 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:38 pm to
The answer is that there is no answer. I used to make $80k/year and saved plenty and felt I lived a good life. Then I inherited a few businesses from my uncle and make significantly more but now pay more for housing,dinners,trips,etc so I now feel what i make isn't enough and that more is better. It really doesn't matter how much you make you will always want more bc your spending will go up with your income even though you might save the same percentage of your income. To me, I personally feel that when my investments can earn me enough to make what I make now without working.....that is when my goal is accomplished and I can retire.

It's all about a perfect amount of money to fit your needs. I went to a high school that cost $15k in the late 1990's, the kids had money, but my best friend never cared about money or the big house he grew up in and he's a high school baseball coach today and teaches private lessons so to him making $100k isn't even important, his happiness is. We all have different goals, so there is no perfect number.

FWIW, my perfect number is $1M haha.
This post was edited on 7/28/13 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80101 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

100k/year means taking home about 70k or 6k/month. But then there's health insurance, and whatever you put in 401k or the like. So let's say 5k goes into your bank.


I don't know if you are just making up numbers or if this is your scenario, but you're telling me with itemized deductions, you are paying a 30% tax rate???
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84943 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:45 pm to
I'm married with a kid on the way. This is not my situation or my expenses. But if you're single with a 100k salary, bringing home 72k is pretty close to the truth unless you have some serious deductions.

ETA: Federal + State + SS + Med
This post was edited on 7/28/13 at 12:50 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80101 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

bringing home 72k is pretty close to the truth unless you have some serious deductions.


Just went to bankrates estimator and on 100k with no exemption, your 1040 estimated tax is 18k
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89483 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

I was thinking 100k would be a good life, not a baller but a decent lifestyle


Nope. I'm there and it's just "okay" - and I live in a hella low cost of living area.

I think the right number is about 2 fiddy.
Posted by Hand
far side of the moon
Member since Dec 2007
2064 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:52 pm to
Add payroll and state taxes to that
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