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TCU run defense

Posted on 7/24/13 at 12:37 pm
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 7/24/13 at 12:37 pm
I was doing research on TCU's run defense and discovered the last time TCU lost a game when giving up 150 rushing yards or more was in 2007 when they lost to Wyoming. This means that TCU gets beat by teams that throw the ball. Say what you want about TCU's level of competition during that span but they have fared well in run defense against some good running teams like Oklahoma in 2008 with DeMarco Murray, Clemson in 2009 with CJ Spiller, and Wisconsin in 2010.

With that being said, do you think if it comes to it, LSU will be able to win this game by throwing the ball, or do you think LSU's run game will be able to do enough get the job done and not have to rely on the passing game?

Not sure if I am confident enough in LSU passing game to win the game if needed, especially in Game 1 with a new scheme.
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6369 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 12:46 pm to
how well have they faired against top tier SEC teams...then come talk to us

SEC football is a different type of football...hence why the SEC has won the last well you know
This post was edited on 7/24/13 at 12:47 pm
Posted by Vanilla Coke
Member since Jan 2013
1343 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 12:46 pm to
Gotta look at who they play. Big 12 pass offenses that dont have our quality RBs
Posted by AtlBrett
Marietta, GA
Member since Sep 2008
2789 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 12:47 pm to
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I was doing research on TCU's



get a job.






no but seriously, get a job.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 12:50 pm to
They are missing their all american against us.
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10471 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 12:52 pm to
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how well have they faired against top tier SEC teams...then come talk to us

SEC football is a different type of football...hence why the SEC has won the last well you know


Any team can get up for a single game and play above their perceived limits.

Just look at Boise State/Georgia in 2011. Or LSU/Clemson 7 months ago...
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60314 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 12:54 pm to
Chucky was always great at getting penetration. Hopefully LSU can keep him from disrupting the inside too much.
Posted by TwoDatBait
Northshore, LA
Member since Jul 2011
5771 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 12:58 pm to
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Or LSU/Clemson 7 months ago...


Clemson didn't play up to LSU, LSU played down to Clemson
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18670 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 1:01 pm to
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the last time TCU lost a game when giving up 150 rushing yards or more was in 2007 when they lost to Wyoming.


That "stat" is misleading. They are giving up a ton of rushing yards.

It just tells me that TCU is simply better at out scoring their opponent, but not necessarily having a great run D.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 1:02 pm to
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Any team can get up for a single game and play above their perceived limits. Just look at Boise State/Georgia in 2011. Or LSU/Clemson 7 months ago...


Which is why I am worried TCU will cheat toward the run and force LSU to beat them with the passing game. Kind of like how TCU won the Rose Bowl by stacking the box and forcing Wisconsin to throw the ball.

The mystery surrounding how our passing game will look worries me, especially in Game 1. If this were Game 4 or 5, or Week 2 and LSU warmed up in Week 1 with an FCS school I wouldn't be as worried.
Posted by goldennugget
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Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 1:03 pm to
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get a job. no but seriously, get a job.


I actually heard the stat on the radio and looked at TCU's past schedules to see what running offenses they faced in that span.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13582 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 1:05 pm to
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Just look at Boise State/Georgia in 2011. Or LSU/Clemson 7 months ago...


Yea, both of those scenarios involved a bigger team that was disappointed to be there along with a smaller/less talented program that was ecstatic to be there. One had to win the game with a field goal with no time left, and the other one had to execute a slew of improbable trick plays to have a chance. This is the first game of the season and LSU will finally be able to hit someone other than themselves in practice. Both teams will be hungry. But yea, any team can get up for a single game.
This post was edited on 7/24/13 at 1:10 pm
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14663 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 1:07 pm to
I don't think it matters that much what LSU's offense does. It matters a lot more how LSU's defense plays. When TCU plays a real defense, they lose. Hold them to under 20 points and it's a guaranteed victory.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12174 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 1:13 pm to
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Yea, both of those scenarios involved a bigger team that was disappointed to be there along with a smaller/less talented program that was ecstatic to be there. One had to win the game with a field goal with no time left, and the other one had to execute a slew of improbable trick plays to have a chance. This is the first game of the season and LSU will finally be able to hit someone other than themselves in practice. Both teams will be hungry. But yea, any team can get up for a single game.
Boise St./Georgia was the first game of the season a couple years ago, and I don't remember a slew of trick plays being involved. You're thinking BSU/Oklahoma.
This post was edited on 7/24/13 at 1:14 pm
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13582 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 1:38 pm to
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Boise St./Georgia was the first game of the season a couple years ago, and I don't remember a slew of trick plays being involved. You're thinking BSU/Oklahoma.


Yea youre right, I was thinking Oklahoma game. I think they had two talented WR's that game and a pretty good QB as well (UGA game). I still cant believe they beat Georgia.
This post was edited on 7/24/13 at 1:39 pm
Posted by LSUnowhas2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
21981 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 1:40 pm to
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I was doing research on TCU's run defense


unless someone is paying you for this "research" you were actually browsing at information on TCU's run defense.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42633 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 1:45 pm to
Top DE will be out for TCU, I think LSU will have some success running the football. In the redzone get ready for the Anthony Jennings package.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13582 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 1:51 pm to
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In the redzone get ready for the Anthony Jennings package.


I sure hope not!
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53417 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 1:57 pm to
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unless someone is paying you for this "research" you were actually browsing at information on TCU's run defense.


Don't be a douche. Leave that shite on the OT.

Valid points but they won't be able to score on this defense like they normally can. We control the tempo. Pound the rock. Throw a little. We win. Our running game is effective bc we beat the shite out of a defense by power formations and fresh backs. There is nobody in their league that has a stable of backs that we have. We don't run around defenders. We run over them until they can't handle much more.
This post was edited on 7/24/13 at 1:59 pm
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53417 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 1:58 pm to
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I sure hope not!


Why?
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