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Watched Fruitvale Station This Weekend

Posted on 7/22/13 at 12:50 pm
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 12:50 pm
It's a decent flick, but not sure I get all the hype surrounding (please spare me the white guilt bs).

Michael B. Jordan does a good job, though he does say "breh" about 250 times in the film.

It's a sad story all around, but I was impressed that the film didn't really play it off as a total puff piece for Oscar Grant. It depicts him as a frick-up trying to get his life in order (unsure how true this is as I've done little reading). It portrays a lot of Oscars flaws, including his temper, his drug abuse, etc. But it also shows his good qualities.

As for the scene of the actual crime, based on what I've read it actually meshes police officer's reports as well as eyewitnesses and really mimics the videos of the actual shooting quite well.

All in all, it's a solid film. I don't see the "Best Picture" hype. It dragged a lot in the beginning, I thought. But Jordan is good enough that it's worth a watch.
Posted by BrownBear
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

I don't see the "Best Picture" hype

But it won Sundance
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 7/22/13 at 12:54 pm to
I haven't seen any of the films it competed with at Sundance, but it must have been a weak year.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

It's a sad story all around, but I was impressed that the film didn't really play it off as a total puff piece for Oscar Grant. It depicts him as a frick-up trying to get his life in order (unsure how true this is as I've done little reading). It portrays a lot of Oscars flaws, including his temper, his drug abuse, etc. But it also shows his good qualities.


The director seems to portray it as a puff piece for Grant on many interviews.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 1:09 pm to
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The director seems to portray it as a puff piece for Grant on many interviews.


He's obviously sympathetic toward him, and the film ends with a montage of Grant's family and a rally to support justice for him. The guy was racially profiled and murdered, after all.

But in the film itself, I thought it was an even take.

For instance, it portrays Grant calling a white cop a "bitch arse n****." Then the cop repeating this over and over. That is a story from the cop himself. I think things like that keep it from being a film that just portrays Grants as uber-victim.
Posted by Easy
Los Angeles
Member since Dec 2008
5687 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:03 am to
I just saw it and thought that overall it was really good. It did drag a bit in the middle and it is a little emotionally manipulative with some of the scenes, especially the ones with his daughter. And it was sad even though I obviously knew how it ended.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:27 am to
Jordan talked about how intense it was filming literally on top of the spot where Grant was killed. Laying exactly where he was laying. That had to be surreal. He said the bullet hole is still there, they've never even bothered patching it up.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:33 am to
Terrible story, looking forward to the movie

He was not murdered
Posted by Rittdog
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 1:22 am to
Spoiler review
quote:

Every year, there is one indie film that manages to break out of Sundance and push through the year, scooping up buzz and accolades as it snowballs towards awards season. Last year, it was the bayou epic Beasts of the Southern Wild, a film that netted a respectable amount of Oscar nominations and audience attention.

This year's Sundance wonder, Fruitvale Station, already looks poised to be an even bigger success, and after seeing it, it's no wonder why. It's a poignant portrait of an American tragedy, one that still burns raw in certain circles. Writer/director Ryan Coogler's retrospective on the last day in the life of Oscar Grant III is sure to break through even the hardest of hearts.

Coogler makes no bones about drawing out the suspense of the story: he opens the film with the notorious blurry cellphone footage taken on a San Francisco train station platform on New Year's Day 2009, which showed several police officers subduing a group of young black men. Things get physical, men get cuffed, bystanders yell for the cops to stop . . . and then the crack of a gun sends us into the abyss. It is a story we've seen unfold in the news before: overzealous cops overstepping their authority, misunderstandings turning deadly, lives snuffed out for seemingly no reason.

But Coogler doesn't dwell on the political or social fallout of the incident. Instead, he sets the bulk of the film the day before the fateful shooting at Fruitvale Station -- the last day in the life of Oscar Grant III (Michael B. Jordan), the 22-year-old victim. This story is about the victim, painting a portrait of a man unaware of the fate that is going to befall him on the first morning of the new year. Oscar's a regular guy, trying to make ends meet for his girlfriend Sophina (Hamlet 2's Melonie Diaz) and young daughter Tatiana (the adorable Ariana Neal). New Year's Eve also happens to be his mother's birthday, and Oscar is playing the role of the dutiful son to Wanda (Octavia Spencer).

The glimpses of family interaction Coogler gives us shows a loving family that isn't without its problems, and as the film plays out, we realize that it isn't a whitewashed canonization of Grant: he's done time for selling pot, and he's just lost his job at a local supermarket. Still, Grant sees 2009 as an opportunity to turn his life around. And as the film plays out to its heartrending conclusion, the tragedy slowly gains more weight, until it drops on your head like a ton of bricks.

The part of Oscar Grant is one that would too easily fall into saccharine territory in a lesser actor's hands. Yet Michael B. Jordan, who has showcased his talent in roles on The Wire and Friday Night Lights, carefully, expertly keeps from stepping into that zone. Already being touted as our generation's answer to Denzel Washington, I personally think Jordan has a much more natural physicality and warmth in his performances than most actors have at his age. Here, we are not seeing a performance -- just the man himself, living the last hours of his life.

The supporting turns are quite excellent. Diaz gives great dimensionality to a part that could've easily fallen into the one-dimensional "girlfriend" role we've seen countless times before. And Octavia Spencer outstrips her Oscar-winning role in a part that, quite simply, showcases the shattering emotionality of a mother's worst nightmare. Ariana Neal is wonderfully touching as a young girl whose whole world is about to be turned upside down. I must also commend the solid turns from Kevin Durand and Chad Michael Murray as the overeager officers whose paths unfortunately cross with Grant's own.

There are times I feel Coogler slackened his grip on the reins, though, and in a few instances I feel he foreshadows the film's conclusion so much that it almost distracts from what he's trying to show you. It's easy to see why, when the audience knows how the story will end, but Coogler could've eased up on the portents (the scene where Oscar cradles a dying dog is a good showcase of acting, but far too on-the-nose for my liking). But for the most part, he keeps a tight leash on much of the proceedings, allowing the story to play out with very little guidance. And at the end of it, the true power of Fruitvale Station is that the inevitable reactions you will feel won't be over a symbol or a saint. It's about a man who didn't deserve what happened to him. 9.5/10



TL DR

Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:40 am to
This was a really good film. I sat watching with a sense of dread, knowing how tragically it would end.

There are plenty non fiction movies made where the audience knows an awful ending is on the way, but you're still able to lose yourself in the movie until the end comes.

The ending kind of lingers over Fruitvale from the very beginning and stays there throughout. At least it did for me, and that made so many scenes that much tougher to watch.

While it might not be Best Picture worthy by normal standards, I'm drawing a blank on the "great" films of 2013, so far.

Same in the acting categories. I think both Jordan and Diaz deserve nominations, at least. People may brush off the idea of them winning, but we're over half way through 2013 and what are the unbelievable standout performances of the year so far?

Im less than an hour out of this movie so i'm sure i'm forgetting people, but I haven't seen the performance(s) that upstages Jordan or Diaz. Not yet.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31932 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 1:37 am to
But where the frick is Wallace?
Posted by Augustus
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2006
8290 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 7:35 am to
I thought it was very good as well. Jordan should be nominated for Best Actor, even if the movie itself isn't nominated. He really crushed it, and he's gonna be a superstar pretty soon I think.

I thought it was pretty even-handed. Talks about his drug dealing, shows his previous jail time, short temper, various instances where he's not a perfect guy. But that's how it should be.

The opening was hard to watch, even if you know the outcome. It's not a movie I'd want to watch over and over, but I'm glad I got to see it in theaters and I'm happy it's having nice success for such a small flick at the oversaturated summer box office.
This post was edited on 7/29/13 at 7:37 am
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 8:18 am to
I think that social issue films like this always get way more hype than they deserve. I thought about going, but I just wasn't in the mood for that kind of bull shite this weekend.
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
5168 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 8:09 pm to
I havent seen it yet but in all honesty it looks pretty boring. I have seen advertisements for this movie more than any movies I can think of recently and the trailor doesn't show much.

From what I gather it's about a black guy who had a girlfriend and a baby and on new years eve he decides to go out with his boys instead of be with his new young family. They get into some shite at a subway and something bad happens that seems kind of racial.

All in all it doesn't look very good.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 8:37 pm to
It's pretty slow moving. I don't know if I'd call it boring, but definitely slow paced.

It's only an hour and a half and it's all set within about 24 hours (sans a few flashbacks).

Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 9:16 pm to
So you bumped the thread to let us know you hadn't seen the movie?
Posted by Easy
Los Angeles
Member since Dec 2008
5687 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 10:52 pm to
Spoilers.

quote:

he decides to go out with his boys instead of be with his new young family


No, his girlfriend is with him. And who takes their 5 year old daughter out to celebrate NYE?

quote:

They get into some shite at a subway and something bad happens that seems kind of racial.


Nah, it was some prison beef. Snitches get stitches.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278496 posts
Posted on 1/14/14 at 10:32 pm to
I just watched it, i never knew it was a true story until the end. But throughout the movie i already knew he was gonna die. I thought it was well acted. He says "breh" the whole movie because that is how some people talk.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20753 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 10:34 am to
Just watched this over the weekend and it was pretty slow. MBJ does well in the role but overall I feel like I could have just saved myself an hour and a half and read about the crime and fallout afterwards and, if I really wanted to, find the eyewitness video of the crime on the internet. Sad story but I guess in the end I didn't need a movie about it IMHO
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