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Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/8/13 at 11:19 pm to
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On the commentary he said some were men in suits, some were actual penguins




I meant how long did the actual Penguin have to spend working with them, so they could help accomplish his master plan.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 11:21 pm to
I'm sure they were trained in the circus for years. "My babies!"



So creepy. I occasionally have dreams of DeVito's Penguin trying to kill me and I wake up quite upset.
This post was edited on 7/8/13 at 11:23 pm
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58036 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 11:51 pm to
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The Penguin-sewer story line was just so bad. Seriously, why do you put him in a sewer? That's the best thing you could come up with to make him an outcast?


What's sad is the Penguin should be an easy villain to do. Just make him a super rich a-hole tycoon.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20758 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 12:08 am to
quote:

What's sad is the Penguin should be an easy villain to do. Just make him a super rich a-hole tycoon.


After TDK, I really thought Nolan would do something like that. Make The Penguin out to be the anti-Wayne....Some billionaire who has been devoting his efforts for decades to ruining Gotham and supporting the mob. "The Penguin" would just be his code name. But I guess it would've been a little anti-climatic to end the trilogy with The Penguin.
This post was edited on 7/9/13 at 12:10 am
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 12:16 am to
Wasn't it true that Robin Williams was going to be the Scarecrow in Batman 5 but Batman and Robin killed that film from being made?
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17770 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 1:15 am to
Batman 89 is still my fav of all Superhero movies.

I saw it in the theatre in Jackson MS and they were sitting people on the floor in the isles

Its so much different than all the others though its almost impossible to compare. The whole feel Burton was going for hit the bullseye IMO but Nolans movies obviously works great too.

MP was great in returns but I never was sold on the penguin. Of couse after Nicolsons Joker the bar was set pretty high.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 1:32 am to
Batman had such great atmosphere in the first one with the look of the city. Returns look was too sleek.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 3:49 am to
Catwoman was hot.
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
13213 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 7:00 am to
Loved Returns as a kid, I remember Christmas '92 I got the VHS and all kinds of toys based on the movie from Santa that year including this bad boy




So, from a nostalgia standpoint I guess Returns will always hold place near and dear to my heart, but after going back years later and watching both movies the first is the superior film. Like one poster already mentioned, Returns had too much of the Burton treatment done to it. Things like marching penguins with rocket laucners, an aquatic assault vehicle in the shape of a duck, and skeletons riding on motorcycles were entertaining as hell during childhood, but now they just kinda fall in that awesomely bad category.
Posted by Augustus
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2006
8290 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 7:13 am to
I personally prefer Batman 89 (probably still my favorite superhero movie) but I like Returns as well. I've always wondered what Burton would've done with Forever had Warner Brothers kept him on as director. I assume Keaton would've come back, and Billy Dee Williams was finally supposed to make his turn as Two-Face. And I always heard Robin Williams wanted to play the Riddler in that movie, but Shumacher ended up going with Jim Carrey.

Would've been an interesting flick to see either way.
Posted by peaster68
Mississippi
Member since Dec 2011
6115 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 7:26 am to
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Holy shite... Talk about memories
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158752 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 7:43 am to
remember once we were staying in a hotel for some wedding when I was a kid, my dad kept seeing us watching Batman Returns, but just figured HBO was showing it a lot or something....until check out and he was billed for Batman Returns x20
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112270 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 8:00 am to
quote:

Wasn't it true that Robin Williams was going to be the Scarecrow in Batman 5 but Batman and Robin killed that film from being made?


Does every Batman film have to have a Robin Williams villian rumor?

Wanted to be the Joker in Batman 89
Wanted to be the Riddler
And then the Scarecrow?

Maybe Batman is just not for you Robin
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 8:02 am to
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29365 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 8:08 am to
quote:

Returns was too much Tim Burton, I hated his vision of the Penguin. I meeeeaaaannn....trained penguins with shoulder mounted rockets?

I thought it was quite convenient that Batman had a jet powered ski boat on the off chance he might want to go cruising thru the sewers of Gotham.

And I much prefer Batman. I still enjoy it today, and I think it hold up well. Its a good alternate to Nolans take.


Of course, I'm not ashamed to admit I'd stand in line to purchase the Adam West series if they ever released it on DVD. I simply dont understand how you cant enjoy it. SOOO much pop culture influenced by that series.
This post was edited on 7/9/13 at 8:11 am
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 8:12 am to
I watched a DVD last night that had a special about bob Kane on it.

Part of it included the 89 premiere and such. It reminded me how huge and hyped it was when it came out. Lines and lines of people waiting to see it

It was made for 48 million. It brought in 43 million it's first weekend, blowing the record at the time out of the water. Made 250 million in America, 411 million total.

Made 100 million in its first 10 days.

It was THAT big
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18407 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 10:42 am to
Batman is better, but Returns is definitely a solid movie
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20758 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 10:59 am to
It was crazy how big the hype was for 1989 Batman. I remember going to the theater at the mall and seeing the line go on forever. Its starting to age a bit but its still a great movie and I think if they had continued with that storyline, it could've been a really cool series of movies. Unfortunately, Warner Bros. was all about some Tim Burton at the time.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112270 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 11:01 am to
quote:

It was crazy how big the hype was for 1989 Batman. I remember going to the theater at the mall and seeing the line go on forever. Its starting to age a bit but its still a great movie and I think if they had continued with that storyline, it could've been a really cool series of movies. Unfortunately, Warner Bros. was all about some Tim Burton at the time.


You know Burton did Batman 89 right?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158752 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 11:23 am to
I think he's implying they gave Burton a massive leash for the 2nd one
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